7:04 pm - 11/12/2012

IU, Eunhyuk, and the Imaginary Korean Netizen Backlash

First Jonghyun and Shin Se-kyung back in 2010, then Junhyung and Goo Hara in 2011…gosh, I was getting worried that we wouldn’t fill our K-pop couple quota this year!

For a scandal that was launched by the still-photo equivalent of a sex tape, the IU-Eunhyuk Twitter scandal has been progressing in a disappointingly benign direction. Several days ago, a photo of a pajama-clad IU and a seemingly shirtless Eunhyuk was uploaded onto IU’s twitter, only to be taken down minutes later. LOEN Entertainment released a statement shortly after the scandal claiming that the photo was taken when Eunhyuk visited IU while she was sick sometime last summer. SM responded the next day with a proverbial “What they said.”

It's worth a readCollapse )

Source Seoulbeats Netizenbuzz: 123

Very very interesting read imo. It's not really about IU/Eunhyuk but more about international fans' perception of Korea. It basically  addresses all the comments (including my own) I've seen reguarding this scandal as well as other issues. It's long so I tried to bold the more intersting parts but I think I kind of ended up bolding the whole thing at the end.

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xblackchristmas 12th-Nov-2012 10:10 pm (UTC)
it just got worse by the excuses the two companies put out there.

gathyou 12th-Nov-2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
A topless video, where bras could be seen. It is supposed to be Jiyeon but people didn't really care from what I've read.
gathyou 12th-Nov-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
Pretty instructive.
And I'm happy that it doesnet seem to impact them so much. I want more dating rumors in kpop, without any troubles to the idols, please.
realme21 12th-Nov-2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
The thing is that the transition was so uncalled for it's like IU: here is my pic with my oppa. There you go.

NOt even a freakin press release or something but this girl just used twitter.
Twitter can destroy careers like what happened to T-ara
I'm glad my bias group rarely uses twitter........

Someone should translate all the Eunhyuk/IU parodies from nate.com
They even use HItler's Downfall OMG
oppa_did_meanit 12th-Nov-2012 11:15 pm (UTC)
I didn't even finish the article. Because all it does it repeat its one point five times over, thinking that using big words that they learned in sociology 101 means they can spew whatever they want in the internet and think they're being a productive member of society.

It's silly to bring Jiyeon into this as an example of a scandalous image gone since during the whole bullying incident, it showed that it was actually a sore spot among netizens that international fans didn't even know still existed.

And then I saw the source. /oh/

Edited at 2012-11-12 11:16 pm (UTC)
uchuufuku 12th-Nov-2012 11:23 pm (UTC)
Am I the only one not loving the article/netizen comments automatically equating innocence with virginity? Whether IU's on-stage personality is the same off-stage is another issue, but sexual experience doesn't mean you're necessarily no longer "innocent" (especially when you consider the opposite of innocence is... guilt?) Maybe I'm overthinking it but it seems like coded slut shaming to me, like if someone's sexually active they can't also have a personality that is sweet, and gentle, and cute, and be an innocent person.

That said I don't follow IU that closely, if she was going around doing an early Britney thing and making a big deal about virginity I guess people could see that as false, but still...
kris_kt 13th-Nov-2012 12:00 am (UTC)
I agree with you, just because someone is in a relationship/ has sex doesn't mean they can't be cute or sweet, and vice-versa a girl who shows a sexy side doesn't mean she is a slut. ie: Hyuna

I think some people don't separate the artist job with their personal life, we pretty much don't know much about this people~
askbask 12th-Nov-2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
I think the article is mostly right. My issue with netizens comments is mainly that they think _she_ sold the whole innocent image. Her agency may have done that, to a point, especially early in her career, and the media has continued to do that to a larger extent up until this incident, but not IU herself. She's been open about how that misrepresents her. During an appearancea at Lena Park's show she sang a song about spending the day in bed with a BF - Lena asked if she got the sexual undertones of the song and if that's something she relates to, and she answered "yes, I'm in my 20s so of course". She's otherwise been open about porn, drinking, enjoying life like normal human beings, she's been a bit rebellous like scheduling her own activities and bypassing her label, etc. etc. I don't think she particularly likes the "nation's little sister" label.
aleash1989 13th-Nov-2012 02:43 am (UTC)
I agree. She was so fierce when she appeared on Running Man too. The members were certainly surprised by it. it's like they expected her to be not very good at the challenges and easy to defeat i.e. getting her name tag off.
sandra_hall 12th-Nov-2012 11:44 pm (UTC)

oh dear god that was long

classics I got to before my attention span gave out
a few ELFs out there who were too busy wiping Donghae‘s imaginary tears to really care

They basically ran into a fire while holding explosives to their chests.

Eunhyuk is a real man that visits the sick not only topless but also by bringing his own sofa
hotaru_snow 12th-Nov-2012 11:44 pm (UTC)
This was actually a really interesting read. Thanks for sharing the article op~
clayray3290 12th-Nov-2012 11:51 pm (UTC)
An interesting read, and it does attempt to tackle something that I think is worth thinking about. I feel like sometimes the international fandom does lose sight of how narrow its scope actually is and how the i-fandom also is in danger of making generalizations without realizing the extent to which it can be uninformed.
falling_empress 12th-Nov-2012 11:51 pm (UTC)
ugh even the bolded parts were too long to read...i thought i was halfway done and then found i only read like a quarter of this...

can someone confirm with me the tl;dr -- we, as non-korean speakers, rely on koreans to give us cultural cues as to how they react to these situations?
gova58 12th-Nov-2012 11:55 pm (UTC)
" [+40, -3] Honestly, though, I know that IU is lovely but isn’t it obvious that she’s a fox? ㅋㅋ She doesn’t look all that innocent so where’s all this shock coming from "

super Agree
gacchiri 13th-Nov-2012 01:04 am (UTC)
Thank the heavens for this article. lmao at the truth tea regarding international fandom.
pancakeonmyhead 13th-Nov-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
did not read/do not care
does anyone know if Junhyung and Hara are still happening?
I haven't anything since last year.
pancakeonmyhead 13th-Nov-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
well no, I do care, and I'm going to read it
mingobus 13th-Nov-2012 02:02 am (UTC)
I agree. As a celebrity there are always people who'll like you because of how you are and what you stand for (or at least pretend to). So randomly posting a picture on twitter to show the world that you're a big phony really isn't very smart.
confuqued 13th-Nov-2012 02:30 am (UTC)
If T-ara could live, so will IU!
lightframes 13th-Nov-2012 02:56 am (UTC)
I do think it's a problem when international fans pick three outraged Internet comments and assume that's the way the entire Korean general public feels.
asth77 13th-Nov-2012 03:05 pm (UTC)
soft_daisy 13th-Nov-2012 03:02 am (UTC)
k-netizen's reactions may have been exaggerated or underestimated, but no matter how i think about it, only in korea would such a picture create a downfall...
djlancerock 13th-Nov-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
yeah, I don't know if I can say "only in korea" cause there's a lot of places idk a thing about, but to me it's ridiculous that a picture of two celebrities taken from the neck up is even a topic of discussion and debate
es2pido 13th-Nov-2012 04:37 am (UTC)
[+425, -46] She was basically at the top of her career, and now she's fallen down to the level of Super Junior.

___sasuka 13th-Nov-2012 08:38 am (UTC)
Omona could learn from that degree of shade tbh.
ddeadmeat 13th-Nov-2012 09:36 am (UTC)
They basically ran into a fire while holding explosives to their chests.

/dying/ i rly can't be making inhuman noises at the library at 8.30 pm

that aside iu can date whoever she wants blah blah someone get it bot of them get it. it's annoying that she was careless about incriminating photos but oh well you live you learn. + doesn't sound like many ppl are pressed so all good
mjspice 13th-Nov-2012 04:04 pm (UTC)
This will die soon. When celebs don't drag an affair along, the media loses interest & moves on.
ceecile Lol13th-Nov-2012 06:31 pm (UTC)

That's supposed to be the light in Eunhyuk's room lol Instead of like a phone or any other light.
I'm not sure what my reaction to this should be.. I'm laughing and scared at the same time.
lilykt7 13th-Nov-2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
idk guys, he doesn't even look like he's definitely shirtless. not a fan of either, just thinking how much this whole thing sucks if they actually didnt have sex. then again i havent been paying attention to this and the only thing i have to go by is the picture.
newlines 14th-Nov-2012 02:55 am (UTC)
i agree with a lot of what the writer said, and i think that what's also important to remember is that as i-fans, it's really hard for us to gauge the popularity of idols with the general korean public and how much they care because we 1) get our news from a community whose whole purpose is to talk about kpop and 2) a lot of the news is skewed by the i-fans tastes. i think it's also important to remember that "netizens" is an extremely broad term and basically refers to anyone that actively uses the internet. after all, pretty much everyone on this site would be considered a netizen! i think people are too quick to hate on korean netizens and generalize the entire population of korea based on those few random people that get quoted because they posted a top rated comment on a news article. are there backwards people commenting? yes. are there problems with korean culture? of course. but every country and culture has it's problems, we're all just pointing at the splinter in someone else's eye, while ignoring the plank in our own eye, so to speak.
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