2:02 am - 12/26/2012

IS KPOP SETTING THE STAGE FOR A GENERATION OF NEW HITLERS? + My Real life encount

KOREAN POP, THE GLOBAL "PHENOMENON" CONTAMINATING CULTURES + My Real life encounter with Racism at Big Bang concert



Investigative journalist Tay Symone (moi) has been getting worldwide recognition for her work and dozens of journalistic offers and opportunities. I'm not gonna lie I do appreciate the fame and money I've made during my time reporting for ohnotheydidnt but due to my journalistic integrity I could NOT accept those offers due to the censorship and corruption from the government, white house, and other racist institutions. I will remain a free woman reporting for the people and fighting the GOOD FIGHT!
The year 2012 has shown that Korea will stop at NOTHING to dominate the world's music industry while simultaneously attempting to obliterate every culture and race across the globe. The one area in which Korea displays diversity is in their widely varying spectrum of Races in which they spew hateful stereotypes and cultural contamination. The usage of the n word is definitely nothing new in KKK-POP, yet it's still just as disgusting to see. In light of fizzled out girl group "Girls' Generation"'s songwriter advocating for a Black Genocide (covered in my previous post), year-end statistics show that racism in K-pop is in fact at an all time high in what some are calling a "nu-Hitler" generation.

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Source: Tay Symone (ifuaskedmeto ), @REALTAEYANG, Hello Venus at Youtube, Gurupop at Youtube, CJ E&M Music at Youtube, My camera phone, fergiename at Youtube
On the scene reporting: Tay Symone (ifuaskedmeto ) with Shadavia Battles
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88keyz2nun 26th-Dec-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
can someone explain to me what an OP is?
celestic_blue 26th-Dec-2012 06:36 pm (UTC)
OP = original poster.
So the author of the article or the person that submitted it :)
redrougerose 26th-Dec-2012 06:11 pm (UTC)
I'm glad we're having this discussion but lawdd the OP does a terrible job of presenting her argument in a serious and objective manner. It's all so sensationalized and smutty.

If the fan account is real, I'm sorry that happened OP. I'm black and have been to many Kpop concerts. I've never had to deal with outright racism but I've had some uncomfortable moments.
lightframes 26th-Dec-2012 11:31 pm (UTC)
What happened that made you uncomfortable?
falsie 26th-Dec-2012 06:15 pm (UTC)
all this oppalogism is making me tired
88keyz2nun 26th-Dec-2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
what does that mean...i don't get it!!!..please so i can laugh.....


seriously what does that mean


nevermind i'll just look it up

Edited at 2012-12-26 06:18 pm (UTC)
bubblyshades 26th-Dec-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
Sigh. There's still a long way to go before we eradicate racism completely. Especially when so many among us are still so unwilling to recognize it, acknowledge it, and talk about it openly.

I understand that homogeneous countries (like Korea, China, Japan) may be less aware of the racist implications of some of the slang words and other cultural items that the they've adapted from "the west," like the N-word and the native American headdress, for example. (Heck, even in the much more culturally diverse US some people are still ignorant as fuck about these things.) But the world, as big as it is, is also becoming smaller. With the technology we have today, with the awareness we have today, the homogeneity of a culture can't be an excuse for ignorance anymore.

Having said that, I do understand that, if you're a member of a homogeneous community and you're perfectly content to live within that community and not interact cross-culturally, maybe issues relating to racism aren't very relevant to you, so why would you bother learning about them anyway. But if you want to be socially informed and socially responsible, then educate yourself. Raise awareness.

A lot of people discounted OP's article because of her strong, aggressive tone. It's unproductive and trivializing to dismiss her arguments just because the way she chooses to express herself makes you uncomfortable. Racism is real. Racism hurts. Racism enrages. Why shouldn't she be mad if people were racist jerks to her? Why shouldn't anyone be mad about experiencing racism? That it even exists is something to be mad about. Sensationalism for the sake of sensationalism is not cool, but that doesn't negate the fact that racism is still an issue.
cherrypop 26th-Dec-2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
The problem with her presentation is that she preceded her entire post with an intro about her credibility as a journalist. Emotional outbursts + credible journalism don't go hand in hand.

But man... the comments here! Forget her tone. We need some serious ignorance policing up in here.

I mean the fact that only the 12-word-or-so title gets addressed and not the 100+ word post below it is ridiculous. People seemed to completely discredit the rest of the content based on the title alone, when in reality, there's some questionable things she experienced that need to be addressed and it's all getting chucked out the window over something as insignificant as a title or her presentation. That isn't even the core of this post. Why are people focusing on the crust?
thebluemonk 26th-Dec-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
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bubblyshades 26th-Dec-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
For the people getting on OP for her tone:
"The tone argument is a form of derailment, or a red herring, because the tone of a statement is independent of the content of the statement in question, and calling attention to it distracts from the issue at hand. Drawing attention to the tone rather than content of a statement can allow other parties to avoid engaging with sound arguments presented in that statement, thus undermining the original party's attempt to communicate and effectively shutting them down."

cherrypop 26th-Dec-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
Agreed.

Sloppy presentation is not the point here.

The point here is look at this shit that goes on behind our backs that we don't even know? I would never have known this awful encounter at the BIGBANG concert happened if OP hadn't come forward! It's messed up... And you know, a similar thing happened at a B2ST concert in Spain. This shit needs to stop.
hipployta 26th-Dec-2012 07:35 pm (UTC)
I can't figure out if this is a troll post or supposed to be serious...the videos are real and all I really know is I DNW.

I do not have that great of a temper and that situation would have involved security removing them.

I'm sure we all agree racism is a problem in KPOP...and I will leave the debate, generalizations, and everything else alone


Edited at 2012-12-26 07:40 pm (UTC)
iznanassi 26th-Dec-2012 07:36 pm (UTC)
Idk on the topic of kpop artists covering a song and using the n-word, I don't think that's racist behaviour. They ARE rappers and most good raps songs have the word in it, it's hard to replace with something else especially if you're not fluent in english.

sballet06 26th-Dec-2012 09:09 pm (UTC)
So you just don't say the word, simple as that
hopelessheartz 26th-Dec-2012 07:42 pm (UTC)
My previous comment mysteriously disappeared. But still OP's hair has the same connotations as Taeyang's, as far as I'm concerned hair is hair is hair. If I dye my hair blonde it doesn't mean I'm trying to be European. The other stuff that duo(meaning GD and YB) in particular does is questionable though.

Also about Seungri making excuses for the empty Thurs show although I'm sure it didn't sell out, flying from Florida my flight wouldve been cancelled had I been flying in for the Thurs show(on Weds), and my flight on Thurs was delayed 45+ min so I wouldve missed most of the show that day anyway. I'm sure there were others in similar situations.
hopelessheartz 26th-Dec-2012 07:50 pm (UTC)
Also I will never forget when some Korean lady GASPED at my face, IN MY FACE in Seoul Station. But for everyone of those that would stare there were many who were extremely helpful and nice.
redrougerose 26th-Dec-2012 08:09 pm (UTC)
Jesus that's just horrible. I would've laughed in her face. Are you black? Omg that's why I am never going to a kpop concert in Korea. I don't want to give the koreans the satisfaction. I'm attending tvxq concerts in Japan. I haven't heard such horrible things from Japan because there's a lot of black people there teaching or in the military.
asnindie 26th-Dec-2012 07:52 pm (UTC)
This is Fox news level of journalism.
aleexnews 26th-Dec-2012 07:54 pm (UTC)
the hindi version of 4minute's mv is actually being sung in hindi. they're fucking terrible at it with the pronunciation and everything but people that speak hindi have said that it was in fact hindi even though they hardly understood it. but gj op, i didnt know hindi = gibberish, then again i always forget what an ignorant dumbass u are.

Edited at 2012-12-26 07:59 pm (UTC)
mjspice 26th-Dec-2012 08:29 pm (UTC)
I speak Hindi but don't read it & I didn't get one word AT ALL.
kuumin 26th-Dec-2012 08:04 pm (UTC)
hello.
i 100% agree koreans r racist psychos. most kpop fans havr never met hoards of korean ppl irl. their fantasy wud b broken.
once one of my korea friends told me not 2 go 2 korea (im chinese btw) bc there r 2 many black ppl living there now.
its probably genetic, that's why u shouldn't hold it against them.
im typing this on my phone because my laptop is broken n i disabled autocorrect so plz dont reply w comments i have 2 type a lot 2 reply 2 this is an uphill battle.

Edited at 2012-12-26 08:08 pm (UTC)
johnnyquest89 26th-Dec-2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
racism isn't genetics... it's something that's educated.
kanbinayume 26th-Dec-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
That Exid video is disappointing on so many levels. I think the main problem here is that Korea doesn't teach the history of the n-word (why should they? it has no connection to their country, does it?), so the people using it think of it just as a harmless fad or something that will make them seem "cooler". Their ignorance is the real problem.
cherrypop 26th-Dec-2012 11:18 pm (UTC)
THIS. Totally true. A lot of them don't know its history and they hear it in rap and said on TV so they think "it's slang".
amandaplan 26th-Dec-2012 08:43 pm (UTC)
I jumped at the chance to go out on the field and do my first on-the-scene report.

The concert venue was empty.

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this part made me lol the contrast is just lol. also even though there is some overreaction in the post, i think there are some valid points that we can't ignore and disregard because of the rest.

Edited at 2012-12-26 08:46 pm (UTC)
dreameth4 26th-Dec-2012 08:50 pm (UTC)
I'm not drunk enough for this but I hope that people will take the time to read through materials kindly provided by various posters in this post as to why it's not okay to use the nword if you're not black. But knowing omona (any of the ___theydidn'ts), those who are ignorant are going to ignore the material provided and continue to insist that it's a) okay to use the nword or b) black people cannot use the word if other ppl cannot!!!

I'm also rather disappointed that people also decided to derail the post, which is about racism, and just complain about OP. I mean can't you guys multitask your complaints?
muhnaplusmuhna 26th-Dec-2012 08:51 pm (UTC)
I see you Canada flag lol
sballet06 26th-Dec-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
UGh yeah OP tends to present these things in a sensationalistic manner, but it doesn't mean you should completely ignore the content. Some of these comments are just ridiculous and completely derailing from what we could have turned into a genuine conversation on racism within Kpop and just in general.
miyozari 26th-Dec-2012 09:45 pm (UTC)
This whole post and the majority of the comments are "gibberish".
Honestly speaking I can't take the content of your "serious journalism" seriously, even though racism is a serious topic and should be addressed but I simply can't with your Hitler comparison.
What Hitler did is simply...well I don't even know which word to use but you should never make Hitler comparisons unless you're a stupid and ignorant troll. No matter what topic you're talking.

If you come to Europe and use this comparison or among Jewish people, you'll be teared apart.

But oppalogists, please stop. The N-Word is not a nice word and you can only use it unless you're black and that's simply it.

Edited at 2012-12-26 09:48 pm (UTC)
mizzyoung 26th-Dec-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
The intent of talking about race in Kpop and Korean culture was there but the execution was down right sloppy and bait worthy. The majority of the comments are no better and probably worse. This could've been a good opportunity to honestly talk about the issues regarding race in kpop, but this post really doesn't do it.
As for the concert, I went to their Jersey concert and had probably the greatest night of my life. However, I'm sorry you had to go through that, OP.
love_keiko 27th-Dec-2012 03:26 pm (UTC)
that concert was really well done---yes there were less ppl on the first day but the second day was PACKED---most likely because that was the original date set for the concert. and they DID talk about the hurricane, how hard it was for them to get to NJ, how they wanted to keep their promise, how they're sorry for what happened and how all the ppl who suffered were in their prayers...dunno what the OP was talking about...

side note: there were a lot of black ppl on the second date. negl, i was shocked---they were dressed like they were going to a concert to do see the weeknd or whatever (which, if u r familiar with the weeknd girls usually show up dressed to the nine)

i feel bad for what happened to the OP, too. i'm not even remotely surprised, tho. like, fine u're mad so say so---bringing the OPs race into it was racist and super fuckin' unnecessary.
cherrypop 26th-Dec-2012 11:02 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry you had to go through that.

Kpop has been very neglectful and unfair to people of color. I personally plan on addressing this when I get to Korea (will be reporting for a Korean-based music company).

I think the word "insensitivity" sums it up best. Let's face it. As culturally open as Korean has become, they're not nearly as aware of the fact of their racism and ignorance because they don't have the history that we in the States do. For someone who grew up here and went to school here, there's really no excuse. They ought to know better.

Nothing takes away the fact that these are culturally insensitive incidents. Nothing makes Kpop blameless either. When faced with comments that say "I'm offended" there ought to be an apology right?

But they're still muddying around and wrapping their heads around the idea of why it's culturally insensitive. Screaming at them might let off some steam, but it should be our job to tell Kpop artists and Kpop companies WHY it's offensive. You can't just yell "That's offensive!" and expect them to get it. Open people up to dialogue when you get a chance. That's what I plan to do. It's what I think other people should do as well.

Edited at 2012-12-26 11:04 pm (UTC)
tryxkittie 26th-Dec-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
i don't know why ppl are so hostile to the reality that k-pop culture is very disturbingly anti-black and really needs not to be. no, they're not the only ones, but why is it that when it's white against black racism we can all rally together, but when it's asian against black racism, suddenly we're not so sure if this is racism, and let's not talk about it, and stop being so sensitive? it makes me really unhappy that we can't even discuss the experiences of actual black ppl living in korea or dealing with korean racism.
xica_s 27th-Dec-2012 12:03 am (UTC)
Everytime this troll's posts get approved I feel like punching my laptop.

I'm not some little "oppa didn't mean it" fangirl. I've actually written about racism in kpop several times myself, so I'm not blind to it. But the sloppy nature of this post, the debatable "facts" contained within, and the tone of the OP, to say nothing of her dubbing herself a investigative journalist (girl, bye), makes a mockery of anyone who is actually sincerely committed to exposing and eradicating racism.
b1gay4 27th-Dec-2012 12:16 am (UTC)
just because OP feels offended doesn't mke her a troll.
none of these accounts are insignificant and should not be taken lightly.
b1gay4 27th-Dec-2012 12:14 am (UTC)
this should include shitdong and eewtuek and boom and beast
OP u made a great post thank u
destined2beboss 27th-Dec-2012 12:35 am (UTC)
I won't be looking into EXID any time soon after seeing this.

The posters experiences are bad, no one should have to experience this.

I really wish she just reported it to us without the over emotion, " They were wearing ugly home made big bang tshirts. They got up to dance stiffly," not called for.

Also,
"First of all that bitch looked more like a monkey than I did cuz my new sneakers were spotless and I had just hot combed my hair an hour before the concert" this statement bothers me on many levels.





Edited at 2012-12-27 12:37 am (UTC)
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