Another guest on Strong Heart was talking about his search ranking for some event in 2009 and Eunhyuk chimed in to add, "My rank was #235 at the time. Although now, I'm sure it's gotten up much more." The MCs asked, "I wonder why?"
1. [+639, -80] Do you not have a brain? Think before you speak;
2. [+565, -68] What an idiot
3. [+560, -80] You trash, you really have nothing other to use for the show than that?
4. [+85, -44] I'm a girl and his comment really turned me off. Does he not know how much pain IU is going through right now because of what happened? And he thinks to use it as laughing matter on a variety show? I feel sad for IU
5. [+82, -16] What a fu*king idiot, why is every member in Super Junior nothing but trash?
6. [+81, -22] IU did make a mistake but it's not right for Eunhyuk to come out on TV and laugh and joke about it like this
7. [+64, -9] When's he going to the army?
8. [+60, -7] So trashy... You really had nothing else to say other than that? You should've just kept your mouth shut, instead you turned yourself into trash... Wow, seriously..
9. [+60, -7] Utter trash
10. [+48, -3] He really doesn't get the situation, does he? He's nothing but a speck in IU's life because he could never amount to what IU had career wise before what happened. He talks as if IU was the one hanging on to him. It's pathetic that IU was even once with trash like him. At least IU has talent, Eunhyuk is old and can't even sing to save his life. Trash without a speck of respect for women.
Here is a translation of the original article from AKP. Thank you
asnindie!Eunhyuk had viewers as well as the other stars on set laughing as he subtly brought up his previous photo incident in a light-hearted way.
On ‘Strong Heart‘ that was aired on the 15th, baseball playe Lee Yong Kyu discussed the attention he received during the 2009 World Baseball Classic in the Korea-Japan match. Lee Yong Kyu was hit on the head by the ball thrown at him by the opposing team’s pitcher and the news made headlines left and right.
Eunhyuk commented, “From March 5th, 2009 to the 24th during the WBC, Lee Yong Kyu was searched more than 1,950,000 times on portal sites. It’s exponentially more than Lee Min Ho‘s, whose drama ‘Boys Over Flowers‘ was ranked #1 in terms of ratings during the time.”
He then added, “My search ranking used to be 235th place… But now, it’s probably gone up a lot,” hinting at his photo incident in a subtle manner. The studio was brought to laughter as Eunhyuk good-naturedly joked about it, and MC Shin Dong Yup could not help but tease as he feigned innocence as he asked him to explain, commenting, ”Just why did it go up?” causing everyone to chuckle again.
Source: Newsen via Nate Netizen Buzz AKP
What do you guys think?
But I just want to say one thing. Eunhyuk does have to suffer the same damage to his image and it's not only for him, but the whole SJ.
I don't know if you do despise SJ as a whole or only a couple members, but the scandal does do some bad affect for Eunhyuk and the other members. Some members who are actually just fine have to experience the effect from the scandal just because they are in the same group of him. Everywhere they go, the scandal is brought in every article's comments. One of the possible reasons why IU is the one who's seen to receive more bad effect is because the public already didn't like SJ way before the scandal happened so hating on them isn't even a new thing to do LOL, while IU was so loved by them so the scandal really shocked them, especially with her image as the 'nation's little sister'.
Now, before you judge me wrong, I'd like to make it clear that even though I am ELF, I don't say this because I am okay that (if) Eunhyuk makes a joke about it. IMO that would be one of the stupidest things he ever did. He should have been more careful with what he says.
And I have always been a fan of IU and her music. I don't care if what people say is true or not about her because all I care is her music. I'll still buy her album if the songs are as fine as or even better than her 1집. IU writes her own songs and I appreciate her talent.
But again, it doesn't seem we will be on the same page since you said that SJ (deserved) their bad reputation. That should have made it clear why you showed your disagreement like this.
Edited at 2013-01-16 08:18 pm (UTC)
I don't even know why youre bringing up SJ. All of my comments about Eunhyuk have been ABOUT EUNHYUK and this situation, I dont care to bring uop the others because they werent there and they didnt speak for him. Also You think that making sexist hurtful homophobic remarks along with racist play is undeserved? They do deserve their bad reputation because they have gotten publicity for being loudmouths who make insensitive comments. Regardless if their intent is "humor" or " they didnt mean it" their comments that make the headline are almost always insensitive and unnecessary. Maybe you should be a good elf and write to SM and tell them that they need to stop sending out the jackass brigade as the face of SJ. Let ryeowook and kyuhyun host something since they are the "good ones". And your inability to see his fault along you being an elf is why you are acting this way. Congrats.
Because you said this? from the first time I commented, this is what I have been trying to defend. I know IU gets more negative flak and I already stated before why she does. I'm just saying that both of them DO receive the same negative flaks from public but IU has more spotlights than Eunhyuk.
Some of you elfs seem to be using Sj's (deserved) bad reputation as an excuse to dismiss what people are saying
I wouldn't bring SJ's name if you didn't bring it first. Unless you said Eunhyuk, then I wouldn't bring it up.
They do deserve their bad reputation because they have gotten publicity for being loudmouths who make insensitive comments.
If I may correct you, it's some of them. And I said this to make it clear for you that even though I'm ELF, I don't always agree in whatever all of them say. I know sometimes some of them do say something stupid that makes me want to dig a hole and hide. They are my idols but they are also human beings. I don't see them as a bunch of gods who will never and can do something bad.
And your inability to see his fault along you being an elf is why you are acting this way
I'm sorry but I never said something that showed I was okay with what he did (and that if he really said that). I had said in my first comment in this thread, "Now, before you judge me wrong, I'd like to make it clear that even though I am ELF, I don't say this because I am okay that (if) Eunhyuk makes a joke about it. IMO that would be one of the stupidest things he ever did. He should have been more careful with what he says" Going back to my first line, I said all I'm trying to defend is just that both IU and Eunhyuk have been getting the same flaks but with different spotlights.
I said that as well.Send out the good ones, they are ruining their own image by making the insensitive ones the faces. Ok and if you understand that why would you question whether or not their bad reputation is deserved? for the way they(SM) allows the loud mouths to take center stage, then it ruins their whole image. When only 2 members out of 11?12? havent made -ist comments, then what can you expect people's reaction to be?
My whole point is that aren't, because of sexism. So? I dont get your point because sexism is very real and active here
Ok and if you understand that why would you question whether or not their bad reputation is deserved? for the way they(SM) allows the loud mouths to take center stage, then it ruins their whole image. When only 2 members out of 11?12? havent made -ist comments, then what can you expect people's reaction to be?
Because those members who don't have loud mouths, do not have loud mouths....they don't talk much. So how could you be the PR of the group if you don't talk much? Why Yesung, who should have been the temporary leader since he's now the oldest in SJ aside from Kangin, didn't get chosen and instead, we got Eunhyuk? Because Eunhyuk talks more than Yesung. And I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for Radio Star, Kyuhyun would have never been able to talk more in variety show like now. Why would I question? Because while it is true that in fact, some of the members have said or done stupid things, the other members don't and they also get the bad effect from it. Ex: SJ-KRY are all very talented in singing but some of the public don't even notice it or acknowledge because they are from SUPER JUNIOR. And this is funny because I saw someone reacted negatively about their Japan single album and asked why Korean singers released an album in Japan and not in Korea first.
This is such a weak defense. Plus Yesung has said disrespectful things about women's body's so he is apart of the stupid lot. Also are ryeowook and kyuhyun mute? are they incapable of speaking? No. So if they want to change their image, then they should start letting other members get more visible roles and stop putting the loud mouths in every hosting spot they can find. They need to control their mouths, watch what they say and take a step back, too much exposure is bad, this is why they are seen as trash. SM LETS the loud one run around, nothing is stopping ryeowook and kyuhyun from hosting something, they arent incapable and they aren't mute. They can speak.
I know Yesung did but I was just using him as an example because leader is usually the oldest in a group and in current situation, he is one of the oldest aside of Kangin. They are all incapable of speaking of course, if not, how could they be an artist without talking? But not everyone has talking skill and that's what I meant. There is a difference between capable to speak and have a speaking skill.
I want to close this debate because it doesn't seem like you will understand what I have been saying. I know what sexism is and I never say it's never a factor in this scandal. I was pointing out the other thing but you kept talking about the gender issue. Furthermore, you're getting even more offensive and offensive so I don't see any point any more to speak about it. I like debating because sometimes I will be able to see the other point of view from someone else, but if one is too offensive in their opinion, then it won't work.
So SM can't train them? they way they have trained the others who have no particular talent in singing and dancing to carry a tune and do a two step? They could have easily trained those two to host, thats the part of training that comes with being an entertainer. Having all around likability and being able to broadcast well. Also being loud and speaking too much doesnt mean that you have skill. Its about the content that goes along with the speech that counts the most. Kim Myungsoo is one of the quieter MCs/Comedians, he gets popularity not because of his speech but because of his content. The problem with these loud ones is that while they may be able to speak comfortable and in manner that is acceptable in hosting etc, they have little to no valuable content. That is why they have a bad reputation and are seen as trash.
I'm not being offensive. This debate isn't working because your points are weak. They are out of context and weak.