10:39 pm - 01/15/2013

Eunhyuk gets flak for his latest joke on Strong Heart

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Another guest on Strong Heart was talking about his search ranking for some event in 2009 and Eunhyuk chimed in to add, "My rank was #235 at the time. Although now, I'm sure it's gotten up much more." The MCs asked, "I wonder why?"

1. [+639, -80] Do you not have a brain? Think before you speak;

2. [+565, -68] What an idiot

3. [+560, -80] You trash, you really have nothing other to use for the show than that?

4. [+85, -44] I'm a girl and his comment really turned me off. Does he not know how much pain IU is going through right now because of what happened? And he thinks to use it as laughing matter on a variety show? I feel sad for IU

5. [+82, -16] What a fu*king idiot, why is every member in Super Junior nothing but trash?

6. [+81, -22] IU did make a mistake but it's not right for Eunhyuk to come out on TV and laugh and joke about it like this

7. [+64, -9] When's he going to the army?

8. [+60, -7] So trashy... You really had nothing else to say other than that? You should've just kept your mouth shut, instead you turned yourself into trash... Wow, seriously..

9. [+60, -7] Utter trash

10. [+48, -3] He really doesn't get the situation, does he? He's nothing but a speck in IU's life because he could never amount to what IU had career wise before what happened. He talks as if IU was the one hanging on to him. It's pathetic that IU was even once with trash like him. At least IU has talent, Eunhyuk is old and can't even sing to save his life. Trash without a speck of respect for women.

Here is a translation of the original article from AKP. Thank you asnindie!

Eunhyuk had viewers as well as the other stars on set laughing as he subtly brought up his previous photo incident in a light-hearted way.

On ‘Strong Heart‘ that was aired on the 15th, baseball playe Lee Yong Kyu discussed the attention he received during the 2009 World Baseball Classic in the Korea-Japan match. Lee Yong Kyu was hit on the head by the ball thrown at him by the opposing team’s pitcher and the news made headlines left and right.

Eunhyuk commented, “From March 5th, 2009 to the 24th during the WBC, Lee Yong Kyu was searched more than 1,950,000 times on portal sites. It’s exponentially more than Lee Min Ho‘s, whose drama ‘Boys Over Flowers‘ was ranked #1 in terms of ratings during the time.

He then added, “My search ranking used to be 235th place… But now, it’s probably gone up a lot,” hinting at his photo incident in a subtle manner. The studio was brought to laughter as Eunhyuk good-naturedly joked about it, and MC Shin Dong Yup could not help but tease as he feigned innocence as he asked him to explain, commenting, ”Just why did it go up?” causing everyone to chuckle again.




Source: Newsen via Nate Netizen Buzz AKP
What do you guys think?
adorkableninja 16th-Jan-2013 09:41 am (UTC)
I can't say much since I haven't watched the video (since some translated article isn't even exactly what actually happens in the show sometimes...the way journalist rephrases their sentences ~_~).
But I just want to say one thing. Eunhyuk does have to suffer the same damage to his image and it's not only for him, but the whole SJ.
I don't know if you do despise SJ as a whole or only a couple members, but the scandal does do some bad affect for Eunhyuk and the other members. Some members who are actually just fine have to experience the effect from the scandal just because they are in the same group of him. Everywhere they go, the scandal is brought in every article's comments. One of the possible reasons why IU is the one who's seen to receive more bad effect is because the public already didn't like SJ way before the scandal happened so hating on them isn't even a new thing to do LOL, while IU was so loved by them so the scandal really shocked them, especially with her image as the 'nation's little sister'.
Now, before you judge me wrong, I'd like to make it clear that even though I am ELF, I don't say this because I am okay that (if) Eunhyuk makes a joke about it. IMO that would be one of the stupidest things he ever did. He should have been more careful with what he says.
And I have always been a fan of IU and her music. I don't care if what people say is true or not about her because all I care is her music. I'll still buy her album if the songs are as fine as or even better than her 1집. IU writes her own songs and I appreciate her talent.
bolingi_aii 16th-Jan-2013 07:22 pm (UTC)
No he does not. Thats the whole point of the neitzens comments and most of the comments in here. Some of you elfs seem to be using Sj's (deserved) bad reputation as an excuse to dismiss what people are saying. Eunhyuk is male and he lives in Male dominated society that privileges men and does not control or constrict their bodies in the same way that it does with women. This is manifested in sexual situations. Eunhyuk will NOT and DOES NOT receive the same comments against his gender and sexual purity etc like I.U does. Most of the flack is put on her, although like I have stated clearly this is neither of their faults. They were both consenting adults who took a photo together that suggested some type of sexual intimacy and people ran wild with judgment. Most of that judgment fell on I.U. Even in here people are saying " she probably did it on purpose" " she's the one who uploaded the photo" " its //HER// mistake". The point is that it isnt a mistake at all. Eunhyuk is not to blame, no one in here is blaming him and none of the neitzens comments blame him. They are focusing on his flippant attitude because he is not getting the same flak as I.U so its tacky for him to be making light of a situation that could have ended her career. I understand what youre saying, I just wanted to clarify that due to sexism, they do not receive equal criticism....but that doesnt imply that Eunhyuk hasnt has ahjussis pissed at him.
adorkableninja 16th-Jan-2013 08:12 pm (UTC)
Then why does every article that has Eunhyuk in it always gets bad comments and gets voted down a lot? Even in such little thing like an airport article. Have you actually had paid attention to all of his articles? I don't think so. And even though IU receives many bad comments, she hasn't lost any contract of CF and show. Unlike T-ara.
But again, it doesn't seem we will be on the same page since you said that SJ (deserved) their bad reputation. That should have made it clear why you showed your disagreement like this.

Edited at 2013-01-16 08:18 pm (UTC)
bolingi_aii 16th-Jan-2013 08:29 pm (UTC)
why do you all lack reading comprehension? Wow he got bad comments, well duh. Who said he didnt? I have said he has gotten off a lot better than I.U has. And he will NOT receive the same criticism as her because she is a female and he is male. Simple as that, if it were America it'd be the same. There is a Korean poster in here so said that I.U gets more negative flak. Apples and oranges. She has a different career and different image and different situation. T-ara group bullied a girl along with their Ceo. The response that they get from neitzens are different, you cant compare these two scandals. The point is that she has a stain on her reputation now, she didnt even write in her fan cafe for a while and she certainly can't get away with making flippant comments.

I don't even know why youre bringing up SJ. All of my comments about Eunhyuk have been ABOUT EUNHYUK and this situation, I dont care to bring uop the others because they werent there and they didnt speak for him. Also You think that making sexist hurtful homophobic remarks along with racist play is undeserved? They do deserve their bad reputation because they have gotten publicity for being loudmouths who make insensitive comments. Regardless if their intent is "humor" or " they didnt mean it" their comments that make the headline are almost always insensitive and unnecessary. Maybe you should be a good elf and write to SM and tell them that they need to stop sending out the jackass brigade as the face of SJ. Let ryeowook and kyuhyun host something since they are the "good ones". And your inability to see his fault along you being an elf is why you are acting this way. Congrats.
adorkableninja 16th-Jan-2013 08:47 pm (UTC)
he is not getting the same flak as I.U

Because you said this? from the first time I commented, this is what I have been trying to defend. I know IU gets more negative flak and I already stated before why she does. I'm just saying that both of them DO receive the same negative flaks from public but IU has more spotlights than Eunhyuk.

Some of you elfs seem to be using Sj's (deserved) bad reputation as an excuse to dismiss what people are saying

I wouldn't bring SJ's name if you didn't bring it first. Unless you said Eunhyuk, then I wouldn't bring it up.

They do deserve their bad reputation because they have gotten publicity for being loudmouths who make insensitive comments.

If I may correct you, it's some of them. And I said this to make it clear for you that even though I'm ELF, I don't always agree in whatever all of them say. I know sometimes some of them do say something stupid that makes me want to dig a hole and hide. They are my idols but they are also human beings. I don't see them as a bunch of gods who will never and can do something bad.

And your inability to see his fault along you being an elf is why you are acting this way

I'm sorry but I never said something that showed I was okay with what he did (and that if he really said that). I had said in my first comment in this thread, "Now, before you judge me wrong, I'd like to make it clear that even though I am ELF, I don't say this because I am okay that (if) Eunhyuk makes a joke about it. IMO that would be one of the stupidest things he ever did. He should have been more careful with what he says" Going back to my first line, I said all I'm trying to defend is just that both IU and Eunhyuk have been getting the same flaks but with different spotlights.
bolingi_aii 16th-Jan-2013 09:12 pm (UTC)
aaaand you completely ignored every comment in here and my comment where I said they receive different criticism and I.U gets it worse because she is female, do you understand how sexism works? Youre contradicting yourself. I.U receives more flak, so how do they receive the same negative flak? I.U gets more negative attention tailored to her gender than Eunhyuk does, that is the difference. No is saying Eunhyuk doesnt get shit, but it isnt the same and that why neitzens are reacting this way.

I said that as well.Send out the good ones, they are ruining their own image by making the insensitive ones the faces. Ok and if you understand that why would you question whether or not their bad reputation is deserved? for the way they(SM) allows the loud mouths to take center stage, then it ruins their whole image. When only 2 members out of 11?12? havent made -ist comments, then what can you expect people's reaction to be?

My whole point is that aren't, because of sexism. So? I dont get your point because sexism is very real and active here

adorkableninja 17th-Jan-2013 07:34 am (UTC)
I was commenting about his image and not about the gender actually. His image in my brain is his image as Super Junior's Eunhyuk, not Eunhyuk a man. That's why I didn't bring any sexism issue in it. It was because of a part of your first comment about his image. I saw that as separated issues, his image and his gender.

Ok and if you understand that why would you question whether or not their bad reputation is deserved? for the way they(SM) allows the loud mouths to take center stage, then it ruins their whole image. When only 2 members out of 11?12? havent made -ist comments, then what can you expect people's reaction to be?

Because those members who don't have loud mouths, do not have loud mouths....they don't talk much. So how could you be the PR of the group if you don't talk much? Why Yesung, who should have been the temporary leader since he's now the oldest in SJ aside from Kangin, didn't get chosen and instead, we got Eunhyuk? Because Eunhyuk talks more than Yesung. And I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for Radio Star, Kyuhyun would have never been able to talk more in variety show like now. Why would I question? Because while it is true that in fact, some of the members have said or done stupid things, the other members don't and they also get the bad effect from it. Ex: SJ-KRY are all very talented in singing but some of the public don't even notice it or acknowledge because they are from SUPER JUNIOR. And this is funny because I saw someone reacted negatively about their Japan single album and asked why Korean singers released an album in Japan and not in Korea first.
bolingi_aii 17th-Jan-2013 01:16 pm (UTC)
You have got to be kidding me? again, do you understand how sexism works? its not separate in this issue because Eunhyuk is MALE idol. Male idols are allowed more privileges because they are MALE. Suju is an all MALE idol group. I really think that you should take sometime to learn more about how sexism works, because if you honestly believe that it doesnt play a factor in this situation then you are misguided.

This is such a weak defense. Plus Yesung has said disrespectful things about women's body's so he is apart of the stupid lot. Also are ryeowook and kyuhyun mute? are they incapable of speaking? No. So if they want to change their image, then they should start letting other members get more visible roles and stop putting the loud mouths in every hosting spot they can find. They need to control their mouths, watch what they say and take a step back, too much exposure is bad, this is why they are seen as trash. SM LETS the loud one run around, nothing is stopping ryeowook and kyuhyun from hosting something, they arent incapable and they aren't mute. They can speak.
adorkableninja 17th-Jan-2013 02:37 pm (UTC)
I said I was talking about his image not his gender. You're seeing this more in the gender issue. I don't deny the existence of it but I see it more in the image issue and that's why I was commenting like that. They are different issues in my eyes. Eunhyuk as a man and Eunhyuk as the celeb. IU as a woman and IU as the celeb.

I know Yesung did but I was just using him as an example because leader is usually the oldest in a group and in current situation, he is one of the oldest aside of Kangin. They are all incapable of speaking of course, if not, how could they be an artist without talking? But not everyone has talking skill and that's what I meant. There is a difference between capable to speak and have a speaking skill.

I want to close this debate because it doesn't seem like you will understand what I have been saying. I know what sexism is and I never say it's never a factor in this scandal. I was pointing out the other thing but you kept talking about the gender issue. Furthermore, you're getting even more offensive and offensive so I don't see any point any more to speak about it. I like debating because sometimes I will be able to see the other point of view from someone else, but if one is too offensive in their opinion, then it won't work.
bolingi_aii 17th-Jan-2013 03:33 pm (UTC)
I am trying to tell you that you cannot separate his gender from his image. Idols are not separated by image and by gender. When idols are ranked, its within gender categories. 'Best Male idol group' 'Best female idol group' 'Best male idol rapper' 'Best female idol rapper'. Their image is tied to their gender. You cannot chose to selectively separate him from his gender in this situation(the negative response he is getting from making this joke at the expense of I.U's treatment) just because it would make a case for your argument when in fact nowhere is he viewed separate from his gender, especially in the view of the public. Which is why his 'joke' was taken negatively. He will get preferential treatment due to the fact that male idols are treated better than female idol (rule of sexism). This is most definitely a gender issue because of the unequal treatment due to both their genders. I.U's image is //tied// to her gender. She is known as the Nation's little //sister// not the Nation's little sibling. Her image is gender specific not gender neutral. I don't know if youre being purposefully oblivious or if you really don't see how gender roles are VERY active in the entertainment industry and TIED to image.

So SM can't train them? they way they have trained the others who have no particular talent in singing and dancing to carry a tune and do a two step? They could have easily trained those two to host, thats the part of training that comes with being an entertainer. Having all around likability and being able to broadcast well. Also being loud and speaking too much doesnt mean that you have skill. Its about the content that goes along with the speech that counts the most. Kim Myungsoo is one of the quieter MCs/Comedians, he gets popularity not because of his speech but because of his content. The problem with these loud ones is that while they may be able to speak comfortable and in manner that is acceptable in hosting etc, they have little to no valuable content. That is why they have a bad reputation and are seen as trash.

I'm not being offensive. This debate isn't working because your points are weak. They are out of context and weak.
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