I Can’t Stop Looking at These South Korean Women Who’ve Had Plastic Surgery

8:42 pm - 01/17/2013

There's a full-length mirror and a scale on every single floor of the all-girls high school where Julia Lurie works. She's an American teaching English in South Korea, and apparently, South Korea has the highest per capita rate of plastic surgery in the world — one in five women in Seoul have undergone some kind of procedure. Most popular: Eyelid surgery, to make the eyes "more Western," and getting your jawbone shaved or chiseled down for a less-square and more V-shaped look.

"When you are applying for university or appling for a job here, you put a picture of yourself on your resume or application," Lurie says in a recent segment on This American Life (you can listen to here). "It is sort of taken for granted that how you look will often go into the decision." She says she's been told that if there are two otherwise equal candidates, the prettier person will get the job. Her students see this as normal — perhaps unsurprising when you consider the nation's status as the country most obsessed with plastic surgery.

As an experiment, Lurie asked her students to describe a beautiful woman. "White skin," they replied. "Big eyes." Thin. Tall. B cup. Sounds like the same narrow standards of beauty fashion magazines and designers doing runway shows adhere to, standards that are eventually broadcast with images seen around the world.

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Source: Jezebel

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Omona, where do you stand on the plastic surgery debate? Feel free to post pre-surgery photos of idols / celebs.
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laeryn 17th-Jan-2013 10:05 pm (UTC)
Idk. I'm all for plastic surgery, tbh. Maybe I would get sth done if I had the money and knew I could actually change sth for the best (not sure about that, tho). I'm not that ok with it being something you /need/ to do. I mean, I would because I am not all that happy with my face, but I'd like to live in a society where not doing it would not mean losing a job. Idk this always seems such a difficult issue to position yourself about, but I've never agreed with criticizing people for getting something done. It's their face, it's their life, and if they look beautiful, why would you care if it's natural or not? Beautiful is beautiful and that's it.
minyquai 17th-Jan-2013 10:06 pm (UTC)
Plastic surgery is a perverse thing to exist, but I would never blame anyone for getting it.
However, I sincerely wish there were more discussion in Korea about how a perfect nose or jaw shouldn't matter that much and what an invasive procedure plastic surgery indeed is.
But let's not pretend we don't have those problems here, too.
It's just that in Korea, like that one girl said, plastic surgery is seen the way makeup is seen: like a minor alteration in your appearance- although it's one hell of an invasion.

And I must admit that all the comments about 'oh I have nothing against ps/it's totally ok' are so not okay to me.
It is okay if you get it, because society is shit.
But it's not okay that it's so often expected and that it has to exist in the first place.
We have to work at the root of the problem and not fucking shame women for adhering to society's expectations.
But we do have to work nevertheless.

And wow racism?????????
They want to look white o ok. Because the pursuit of pale skin and big eyes had never existed before the white man came. O ok.
lee_chikin 17th-Jan-2013 11:07 pm (UTC)
I want to hug your comment.
luvey 17th-Jan-2013 10:06 pm (UTC)
thank you for this. i was just having this conversation the other day with another omonaite.

i have no problem with a little work done in plastic surgery in general, but i do question when people turn themselves into someone else. my brain always goes to solbi when i think of people who just should have stopped long before.

the questions in my head though are:
1. what happens when the standard of beauty changes?
2. since it lead to self esteem issues for the next generation, what happens when they have children and original features are passed down? will they start a fund for their child for plastic surgery in the future?
3. there is also the question of when did beauty affect the job you do?


Edited at 2013-01-17 10:09 pm (UTC)
aifurikuri 17th-Jan-2013 10:57 pm (UTC)
"what happens when they have children and original features are passed down? will they start a fund for their child for plastic surgery in the future?"
I've always wondered about this too. If they didn't like their original features at all, and didn't feel happy and confident about it, what goes through someone's mind as they look at their child who bears those oh so hated features? Doesn't it affect ones relationship with their child?



Edited at 2013-01-17 10:57 pm (UTC)
itsprincess 17th-Jan-2013 10:06 pm (UTC)
i think its ridiculous society puts such unrealistic beauty standards on women but then shames them for actually conforming to it.

but i do agree about that uniformity thing. everyone's starting to look the same.
meterstandkaart 17th-Jan-2013 10:07 pm (UTC)
Can't these people just make do with make-up? I've seen a lot of those youtube make-up vids done by eyeliner magicians that give the same effect. Besides, I always think it's really sad for the kids, wondering why they don't look like their parent at all.
itaewon 17th-Jan-2013 10:23 pm (UTC)
If you're looking to change your nose or jaw shape I don't think make up is gonna be able to do anything or show as much of a result as surgery would do. Drastic yeah, but idk it's what some ppl want.

Edited at 2013-01-17 10:23 pm (UTC)
krobwell 17th-Jan-2013 10:10 pm (UTC)
I'm for it because it makes people happy, and everyone can spend their hard earned money however they want.
And my sister has eggplant titties and she seriously HATES herself because of it. They're bad yall...reeeeaaalllll bad.
reelrecnizereel 17th-Jan-2013 10:10 pm (UTC)
I love that tumblr page I sat up all night going through it when someone posted it on the FFA.

I am Pro plastic surgery for so many reasons! But it scares me when I see young idols that aren't even done with puberty go under the knife.

OP do you think you could add this show "Let Me In" somewhere http://youtu.be/H6RVqZUsdXw - the drama is bit much but I think they do a lot for people. oh and this segment too http://youtu.be/fmKgDVJMCH4
kazu_kumaguro 18th-Jan-2013 05:31 pm (UTC)
all I can see from that tumblr is that how can Chanyeol looks that good naturally <3______<3
like, <3 _______________ <3
urgh, genes.
asnindie 17th-Jan-2013 10:10 pm (UTC)
I'm all for personal happiness, it's your face, if it makes you happy then good.

But if you think changing the shape of ears for the sake of some shallow ass loser then Idk, it's not gonna buy you happiness until you get self esteem and learn to love yourself because there's always gonna be something you hate about yourself. But society is the biggest joke, when looks are the only thing you value then ofcourse people will get work. But this is a slippy slope, I fear what Korea will look like in the future if they carry on obsessed with image, and not character.
itsprincess 17th-Jan-2013 10:12 pm (UTC)
i love that tumblr. the person who runs it is pretty cool.

also it sucks when you look uglier after your surgery tho. thats probably what im afraid of if i end up going under the knife.
reii_chan 17th-Jan-2013 10:12 pm (UTC)
A lot of idols do something to get their skin whiter, I don't know if it's a surgery or what
hellicoptajuuce 17th-Jan-2013 10:37 pm (UTC)
apparently it's an injection that can cause cancer *shrugs*
chewmi 17th-Jan-2013 10:14 pm (UTC)
Obsessed with this tumblr! So just a question...some Korean artists have bad ps done cant they fix that?
fleursdelis 17th-Jan-2013 10:42 pm (UTC)
From what I've seen, it just gets worse, just look at Solbi over the years & SS501's botched nose jobs.
miyozari 17th-Jan-2013 10:15 pm (UTC)
I don't condemn plastic surgery (but I don't realllly support it) but comparing it with make up is too..blank, at the end of the day, you wash it off and every day you can apply make up in a different way and change the shape of your a face slightly.
I think it's okay if you get ps, if you want to slightly change your facial features but completely changing your face like e.g Bom is way too much.

Then again the fact that society and certain standards force someone to get surgery is really sad, the Korean society is sometimes way too narrow minded, homogenous and blank in some way.

Instead of being simply ok with it we should also question, what went wrong with our society that a women needs ps in order to fulfill to certain standards.

Idek know what I'm saying anymore...I'm torn apart :c


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luvey 17th-Jan-2013 10:48 pm (UTC)

"Instead of being simply ok with it we should also question, what went wrong with our society that a women needs ps in order to fulfill to certain standards"

it is a good question, along with why did we allow the media to dictate a narrow view of WHAT is that standard.
syrenshaeda 17th-Jan-2013 10:23 pm (UTC)
I'm boggled by how much they can shave off of the jaw. I would think that at some point there wouldn't be much left to shave off?

I'd get my nose done tbh. It's not something that's bothering me a lot though, so idk. But I think that's about it. Maybeaboobjob.
yunhalove 17th-Jan-2013 10:23 pm (UTC)
I have no problem with it. I used to, because of all the people stressing ~natural beauty~, but I realized that's just another paradoxical standard women are expected to live up despite being constantly pressured to be conventionally gorgeous so I just said fuck it. Let people do what they want to their own face. I'd personally get my jaw shaved if I wasn't afraid of pain and the fee. AND THANK GOD FOR THAT PERSON WHO SAID WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE WHITE. I'm tired of this ignorant and really kind of obnoxious worldview. Do you think people take a picture of Angelina Jolie to the plastic surgeon? No, they ask for noses like Park Minyoung or eyes like Park Boyoung.
sjtaazrz 18th-Jan-2013 02:34 pm (UTC)
IA with what you said about "natural beauty"

It reminds me of something I was saw on tumblr the other day like
"The men that claim they like your natural beauty are the same ones who want you to shave your legs"
arsinoi 17th-Jan-2013 10:27 pm (UTC)
When it comes to plastic surgery I'm all for it if it is for self-esteem reasons. There are times when nothing will stop you from feeling miserable because of something you don't like on you. That being said, it'd be so much better if the korean standards of beauty weren't so narrow because everyone getting surgery looks so much alike, you can practically tell what they had done.
laceandskin 17th-Jan-2013 10:27 pm (UTC)
I'd totally get plastic surgery in South Korea if I had a few thousands to spare. The liposuction before and after photos were incredible.
itsprincess 17th-Jan-2013 10:31 pm (UTC)
yea honestly if i exercised i could probably get into shape easily but im so fucking lazy. if i had the money to spend i would honestly just get lipo. lol
p3rk3le 17th-Jan-2013 10:29 pm (UTC)
honestly i'm not against it. if it makes you feel better about yourself then it's good. healthy even. better than having a bunch of complexes, hating yourself etc etc. of course avoiding the extremes, if its a thing or two you'd wanna change then you might as well do it. I'd change my nose if ever found the time for a surgery..
lonelymoon 17th-Jan-2013 10:31 pm (UTC)
I'm addicted to that site, ngl
itsprincess this is the plastic surgery show if anyones interested17th-Jan-2013 10:37 pm (UTC)
hitsujiga Re: this is the plastic surgery show if anyones interested17th-Jan-2013 10:50 pm (UTC)
lol the end in the classroom: O___O?..oh! :D congrats on your new face!
siaht 17th-Jan-2013 10:38 pm (UTC)
Discrediting that blog's owner for suggesting that everyone in SHINee has had PS except Minho. Come fucking on, Key's the only one who looks exactly the same as when he was a baby.
hitsujiga 17th-Jan-2013 10:51 pm (UTC)
he botox'd his lips though recently...for whatever reason..and maybe his nose.
unicornios 17th-Jan-2013 10:44 pm (UTC)
I have no problem with plastic surgery, not all of us were genetically blessed but the fact that society somehow pressures you to do it because you don't fit the beauty standars is quite sad and fucked up.

That being said, Korean women are seriously becoming clones. I think it's because they're all getting their jaws shaved, their features are becoming very homogeneous.
I love Magdalena Frackowiak because she doesn't have that desired v-shaped jaw and girls works it.

age_ofconsent 17th-Jan-2013 10:51 pm (UTC)
i love her so much, she is a goddess *_*
soramai 17th-Jan-2013 10:46 pm (UTC)
lol, I just spend 2 hours looking this tumblr, then I came in Omona and this post, lol XD
rinn1e 17th-Jan-2013 10:46 pm (UTC)
IIRC, Fan Bing Bing eyes has always been big? Idk, I remembered watching Princess Pearls, actually, all I remembered from that drama was 3 big set of eyes: Zhao Wei's, Ruby Lin's and Fan Bing Bing's. Particularly the two formers, they were huge.
bubble_monkey9 17th-Jan-2013 11:13 pm (UTC)
yeah fan bing bing has always looked like an alien
aifurikuri 17th-Jan-2013 10:48 pm (UTC)
I would never do it unless its a life or death situation. Like I really, really avoid hospitals as much as I can.
iznanassi 17th-Jan-2013 10:54 pm (UTC)
I just find it amusing when you get those stories of people who spread their bad genes because the husband/wife assumes their face is natural.
laceandskin 17th-Jan-2013 11:07 pm (UTC)
Anybody can have ugly kids though. Being naturally beautiful doesn't mean that your kids will be gorgeous too.
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