11:21 am - 02/15/2013

Crying Nut continues to sue CNBlue over copyright issues.

Crying Nut has asked Mnet to not interfere in their lawsuit against CNBLUE.

The indie band had filed a lawsuit because CNBLUE previously performed Crying Nut’s “Offside” on ‘M!Countdown‘ back in 2010 and the recorded performance was later included in their DVD released in Japan. However, Mnet had stepped forward to say they would be taking responsibility for the lawsuit.

However, Crying Nut emphasized that the problem was with CNBLUE and not Mnet. Through an official press release, they commented, “We already received compensation from the broadcast station because of the wrongful broadcast, DVD reproduction, and DVD distribution. There is nothing else that the broadcast station is responsible for anymore.”

They then explained, “The problem that’s left is with CNBLUE because they deceived and misled the viewers and the Japanese DVD buyers that Crying Nut’s own AR music was their own live sound. In other words, they have to pay for the actions of stealing our musical property (copyright, neighboring copyrights). This is not something Mnet should mediate or cooperate with. We will not be covering this up. We will be taking strict measures.”

Source: AKP, Mydaily

I have alot of respect for Crying Nut and they should protect their own rights but this is coming off a vendetta against Cnblue.
xalexandriam 15th-Feb-2013 04:17 pm (UTC)
yes, because i'm sure the members of CN Blue actively conspired to do this shit.

rme. crying nut are not wrong in wanting to protect their intelectual property, but they're going after the wrong people. Go after MNet for using their AR recording in the first place and CNBlue's company for not giving a shit about using it on a DVD for profit.
megustaelmoney 15th-Feb-2013 04:23 pm (UTC)
i dont think the money of the dvds went to fnc though? they asked people not to buy it at the time.
missnothings 15th-Feb-2013 04:20 pm (UTC)
I understand them for wanting to protect their rights, but this is getting a little ridiculous now. They were already paid by Mnet for the DVD royalties. CN Blue didn't profit from this one performance, other than I suppose a performance fee. But they didn't make money from the DVD.

Crying Nut is just making themselves look petty. It's just sour apples. All around.
sandritablue 15th-Feb-2013 04:27 pm (UTC)
I think they didn't even got performance fee....Crying Nut is releasing an album in march after 3 long years of absence, i can't help but think they are making noise marketing.
megustaelmoney 15th-Feb-2013 04:24 pm (UTC)
They have every right to protect their own music but they're coming after the wrong people. It really is starting to look like a vendetta plus they're making a comeback...
lysblack 15th-Feb-2013 04:28 pm (UTC)
crying nut has all the rights to fight for what is rightfully theirs, but they are going over bosrd against cnblue, it not like they went to a cave and evil laughed over their plans to steal their music.

the biggest mistake was from a company trying to profit from a cover without clearing it up with the original artists, but i doubt that cnblue acted the way they claim in this, artists cover others artists all the time.
sandritablue 15th-Feb-2013 04:35 pm (UTC)
Profit was for Mnet, Mnet released the DVD to get additional profit of all of CNBLUE's stages in M!countdown. FNC didn't authorize it and didn't get any profit of that DVD, it was all for Mnet.
FNC even asked fans to not buy it, they released official notice in their page saying they weren't involve in the production or distribution of that DVD.
shunluv 15th-Feb-2013 04:38 pm (UTC)
yes they have every right in the world to protect their music.
but seriously they are attacking wrong people.
it is MNET & FNC they should consult.
obviously MNET have admit their mistake and already pay them,they accept the money but seem like they don't care at all and still not satisfied.

for me their purpose only to ruin CNBLUE reputation.
they seem too petty and childish with this.
why wait to do this specially during the boys important comeback this year?
why they not directly do the lawsuit when it still fresh&just happen or when MNET give them the money but only wait until now when they just doing their comeback.
the timing to too convenience lol.
blaming them for something that happen during the time the boys JUST DEBUT not too long where they are still newbie and don't have power to do any decision.

i heard CNBLUE just apologize.not sure true or not.
but if it true let just see what their reaction if they accept or not.
i mean being the sunbae but still try ruin youngsters who just started pursuing their dream when they can just settle this peacefully they sound too petty.
i hope they would just accept the apology and move on.
if they still try to make this into bigger problem after this then i don't want to believe their purpose is that innocent to protect their music only.

Edited at 2013-02-15 04:43 pm (UTC)
sandritablue 15th-Feb-2013 04:49 pm (UTC)
They already apologized but "Crying Nut" released a statement saying they don't need CNBLUE's apology, they want to go to trial and message at the end of that statement was "btw we are releasing an album in March"
asianmusiclove 15th-Feb-2013 04:51 pm (UTC)
guys, this is about the plagiarized music now (CNBLUE's debut song remember?). In order to resolve that, they have to deal with CNBLUE directly. Sorry, but this is the ugly side of protecting one's copyrights.
megustaelmoney 15th-Feb-2013 04:54 pm (UTC)
That was Ynot, not Crying Nut

also cnblue had no blame on that either

Edited at 2013-02-15 04:55 pm (UTC)
asnindie 15th-Feb-2013 05:16 pm (UTC)
Gurl don't make me come to your house.
asnindie 15th-Feb-2013 05:15 pm (UTC)
I hate their comment about Cnblue not apologising, when they already have, infact Cnblue have been apologising for their existence since their debut. I'm all for "indie music" but to go full on after a band trying to survive is so vindictive to me.

Also their comment about CNBlue just fake strumming along should be aimed at Mnet, and all the music shows for not supporting live music, how that is the fault of CNblue. Also rookie groups have to do what Companies tell them, otherwise they hold grudges. To demonise Cnblue as some evil band infringing on their rights is such misinformation that this is really coming off as some lame attempt to gather the hipster army against Cnblue.

Also Crying Nut, noone thought Offside was their song mate, give it a rest. Like noone can cover songs anymore without it being somehow stealing.

Keep trying though, this has just made me want to protect CNbue and I love indie music more than anyone.
bloodyhanie 16th-Feb-2013 04:01 am (UTC)
mte. CN Blue keep getting dragged into some mess. My heart aches for them really. I don't understand why after 2-3 years Crying Nut went all out asking for CN Blue's blood? They should makes the same noise when they received compensation from MNET but all that is done so quitely. This makes is looks so personal like they trying to ruin CN Blue or something. All the respect I had for them started to lose bit by bit...

Edited at 2013-02-16 04:01 am (UTC)
asnindie The Performance in Question:15th-Feb-2013 05:25 pm (UTC)
sandritablue 15th-Feb-2013 05:25 pm (UTC)
Crazy Nut is acting like they want to destroy them, it's really not fair because the responsability is on Mnet. It really breaks my heart to see them suffer yet again for something that isn't even their responsability.

What a rookie was supposed to do? they have to do what their are told by the station or get banned, M!countdown requested the song, provided the AR sound and failed to credit. It's their negligence.

Yonghwa said in his Gaon acceptance speech: "In 2013, I wish for CNBLUE to be loved more as a band." ....i guess that's not gonna happened thanks to Crying Nut.

Edited at 2013-02-15 05:29 pm (UTC)
asnindie 15th-Feb-2013 08:12 pm (UTC)
I really wish they'd had brought it up back then, Mnet needed to learn a lesson tbh, you can't go around doing things like that.
asnindie 15th-Feb-2013 08:07 pm (UTC)
So FNC apologised publicly, Netizens won't stop since they think Idols are bottom barrel even though they've poured blood and sweat in spreading their bloody precious Hallyu Wave, but will see if Crying Nut gives it up. If after apologies from Mnet, FNC and compensation, they still don't give it up, someone is a bitter and entitled group.
hellodee16 15th-Feb-2013 08:46 pm (UTC)
hmm, crying nut(s) indeed.
sky_fish7 15th-Feb-2013 08:49 pm (UTC)
Never heard about Crying Nut... But reading this makes them appear pretty dislikeable to me and not only because I am a fan of cnblue. I personally think cnblue are not the one to blame. Therefore Crying Nut should welcome people covering their songs. I'm always a fan of songcovers and hearing them often makes me interested into the original. I discovered a lot of good bands and artists through covers so in my opinion it's a good thing for an artist to get covered! And doesn't there exist the wording "imitation is the highest form of admiration"? I think, sueing cnblue now really cries for marketing - a fo of marketing that's really aggressive and that I don't apreaciate. There really must be other ways to get noticed =(
ashiva 15th-Feb-2013 08:57 pm (UTC)
Crying Nut is really living up to its name. Anyhow this is a stupid publicity stunt for their upcoming album and desperate try to cash into CN Blue's success (which definitely didn't happen because this performance, but their own songs).

Edited at 2013-02-15 08:58 pm (UTC)
tempestdance 15th-Feb-2013 09:56 pm (UTC)
Jesus Christ people, I'm only gonna give you guys the benefit of the doubt that you guys are international fans and don't know any better - Crying Nut does not NEED noise marketing. If anything CNBlue isn't even considered a band in the eyes of Crying Nut's target audience.

The issue is that even if it was the Mnet's fault, CNBlue and FNC hadn't taken responsibility for what is very disrespectful to Crying Nut; even their apology was half-assed: Crying Nut didn't even hear about the apology until it was in the news. I'm sorry, but it just looks like FNC is trying to hype up the issue more since they're the big company and have an advantage in media play.
asnindie 15th-Feb-2013 10:50 pm (UTC)
Crying Nut is the one suing yet FNC is hyping this up?
love_allure 15th-Feb-2013 10:00 pm (UTC)
i thought this was about ji hyun woo's band and was shocked but then i realized his band was/is called The NuTs. lol
___varying 15th-Feb-2013 11:45 pm (UTC)
Idk how these covers work, but given that Crying Nut aren't just crying foul over the DVD but also the actual performance, does this mean that in order to avoid this CNB would have needed to pre-record their OWN instrumental of Offside to use as a backing track during the performance (since crediting during the performance/broadcast would clearly have destroyed the illusion of them playing live)? Shouldn't someone have just told them that? They'd have needed to learn the song to hand-sync anyway.
asnindie 15th-Feb-2013 11:55 pm (UTC)
Korea had just won a game and CNB were basically asked to perform the song right there and then, it was basically a dumb move by Mnet. I do think Mnet were in the wrong and should never have played Crying Nut's instrumental, but Crying Nut make it seem like some evil plan by CNB to deceive the world, it's just too much. They're at the behest of broadcasting companies, it's too much to blame CNb for what was a poor decision by Mnet.
weerainbow 16th-Feb-2013 01:00 am (UTC)
Wow this is really starting to sound a bit obsessive. I really hope they can come to some kind of agreement because I can't see how this is helping anyone :(
itskimbitches 16th-Feb-2013 03:18 am (UTC)
This is a sad post lolz. These comments are so dramatic. Cnblue is gonna be fine and if they crumble the company will just make another just like how they made them. Its kpop there's no roots.
of_angeldust 16th-Feb-2013 04:16 am (UTC)
adorkableninja 16th-Feb-2013 07:18 am (UTC)
So....what exactly Crying Nuts want from this lawsuit....?
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