11:55 am - 02/22/2013

'A' requests to be tested for drug analysis

shi hoo bastard
While actor Park Si-hoo has been charged with the rape of a young woman, this woman 'A' has asked to be checked for drugs.

The Western Seoul Police Station has submitted 'A's hair, urine and blood samples to the the National Scientific, Criminal & Investigation Laboratory.

Meanwhile, wannabe star 'A' reported actor Park Si-hoo for rape on the 15th. She claimed he raped her while she was drunk.

Park claimed through a media source, "The intercourse was mutual and there was no force".

Park also claimed that he was going to oblige to the police's biddings to prove himself innocent.

He will be investigated this 24th.
Credits : tv reports
Source : Hancinema

uledy 22nd-Feb-2013 05:14 pm (UTC)
Why would she even need to ask for this (I'm assuming she's wanting to show that PSH and/or that other man drugged her)? Shouldn't this be part of police procedure when investigating allegations of rape and sexual assault. On the other hand, I don't know how common it is to use drugs outside alcohol as a tool to commit rape or sexual assault.
sobaek 22nd-Feb-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
Spiking drinks with other substances to facilitate rape is common enough for her request to be completely reasonable to me.

Especially if she can't recall drinking an excessive amount but was incapacitated. Say she drank within her regular limits, but felt inproportionately intoxicated? That could be an indication that she was spiked. I've had my drinks spiked at university social events and boys try to lure me away from the group while I was blacking out and completely out of control of my actions. Not everyone has the benefit of a large group of people looking out for them.

Edited at 2013-02-22 06:13 pm (UTC)
asnindie 22nd-Feb-2013 06:18 pm (UTC)
Wtf. That's terrible:(
sobaek 22nd-Feb-2013 08:31 pm (UTC)
yeah people suck. I can think of three occasions through my 2nd year in university, because I went out clubbing every week. On one occasion I had a guy try to lure my away from the group while I was (unbeknownst to everyone) hypothermic. Not long afterwards I was in a&e with my bp through the floor, a degree off permanent damage and a sluggish heart rate (I had a really weird time in uni tbh). Luckily all of our events were group-centric and everyone looked out for the people in their group but it still grosses me the hell out. Particularly the guy that targeted me hypothermic, he was obviously looking for girls that seemed completely out of it. Except I wasn't drunk. I was out clubbing in pyjamas in March on no food and too much caffeine.
uledy 22nd-Feb-2013 06:49 pm (UTC)
That's not what I'm saying. My question is why would a complainant need to request this test, when it should be police who initiates/requests this test as part of their investigation.

I understand the spiking drinks is a common in parts of the world and different drugs are more prevalent in different countries, my concern is whether this is prevalent in South Korea as a way explain why the police didn't proactively request this test of the complainant.
sobaek 22nd-Feb-2013 08:01 pm (UTC)
Because Korean police are crap???
supplanter 22nd-Feb-2013 06:14 pm (UTC)
I dunno, since she has to submit samples for it. I don't think the polics can just demand you take a rape kit, I imagine you request that too.
uledy 22nd-Feb-2013 06:53 pm (UTC)
Maybe it's the language in this article. To me, "request" means that the complainant as proactively asked for this test whereas "assents to", "undergoes", or "allows" shows that she is agreeing to the requests of others. I just don't know much about criminal procedures in SK, so it's bizarre to me that these wouldn't be standard requests from the police.
supplanter 22nd-Feb-2013 07:00 pm (UTC)
That's a likely culprit. These articles are hardly ever translated into very natural english, so it's hard to guess what the nuance was.
uledy 22nd-Feb-2013 07:10 pm (UTC)
Yep, it does seem as though that's always the case :/
muzegrey 22nd-Feb-2013 08:36 pm (UTC)
It's still hard to rape a girl if she has alcohol in her system and she can still resist quite a bit as well as keep her memories.

The only time I was ever fully raped was when I was drugged. Also the only time I cannot remember a single thing while drinking.

Also, they only ordered 2 bottles of soju. Even if they drank one bottle each, it's pretty hard to get drunk to the point of passing out over that amount but it depends on their tolerance level.

Honestly, I am suspicious of the fact that she walked out completely fine and then passed out in the car. Drugs can take only 10-30 minutes to kick in. So if they gave it to her, it would have had to be right before they left the bar or in the car since it was only about a 10 minute drive to his house.
tempestdance 22nd-Feb-2013 08:37 pm (UTC)
in another article it was the police that made the request, not the girl.
uledy 22nd-Feb-2013 09:03 pm (UTC)
That definitely would make more sense.
rinn1e 22nd-Feb-2013 06:06 pm (UTC)
They haven't investigated him yet? .... What the fuck?
hellodee16 22nd-Feb-2013 06:14 pm (UTC)
it kinda bothers me that they described her as a "wannabe star"
call her female, victim, woman/girl, or just trainee A.
asnindie 22nd-Feb-2013 06:16 pm (UTC)
Side eyeing the fuck out of whoever wrote the article.
hellodee16 22nd-Feb-2013 06:27 pm (UTC)
yeah it's like
~"hey guys remember she wants to be a celeb so she might have ulterior motives after all. continue to keep that in mind!"~
shineebambi 22nd-Feb-2013 06:44 pm (UTC)
right like the second this goes to court and her name comes out all her chance at stardom is gone because this will follow her around for the rest of her life its pisses me off
asth77 22nd-Feb-2013 07:13 pm (UTC)
ikr
somacomatose 22nd-Feb-2013 06:30 pm (UTC)
urgh IFKR.
shanny_w 22nd-Feb-2013 08:23 pm (UTC)
ia.
shineebambi 22nd-Feb-2013 06:45 pm (UTC)
god this just gets worse and worse but im just praying he doesnt find some way out of it and actually gets his ass thrown in jail to rot like it shoud
ayumikoshiro 22nd-Feb-2013 07:05 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure what to think about his adamant refusal that anything wrong happened. It just doesn't make any sense at all. If they have CCTV evidence extensive analysis and an eye witness wouldn't it just be better for him to plead the 5th.

Not like it matters anyways he'll get 5 years max if not early release for good probation + fines and probation. Damn the laws for rape and assault really really are horrid. Even after that mess that went on in "The Crucible" still things are no better.
shineebambi 22nd-Feb-2013 07:11 pm (UTC)
its actually scary how many studies ive seen when men adamantly say theyve never commited rape or assualt but then you give them a few situations without using the words forced or rape that are still very real rape or assault situations and they say theyve done it, like bug a women until she finally says yes, get someone drunk to sleep with her, not stop when she changes her mind, etc etc.
winegums 22nd-Feb-2013 07:31 pm (UTC)
I've seen that study, and it was shit scary. Some people literally do not get that there is shit it is NOT OK to do with someone else, and if he's one of those, it's v. possible he thought having sex with a girl who was too drunk to say no/resist was nbd.....

and idc how many fans he has or even that I liked his work myself, rapists deserve to rot in hell (but I will settle for jail). Some of the netizen lot just make me want to give up faith in humanity.
shineebambi 22nd-Feb-2013 07:50 pm (UTC)
yes that study was scary on how many men were just blissfully unaware that they were in some cases serial rapist without a second thought as to what they are doing might be wrong and these werent even like the supposed "scum" that rape these were elite college students with good grades and on the surface seemed like decent human beings for the most part and they would or have assaulted women. And ya i say let him rot in a dirty cell with just enough shit to keep his ass alive but miserable, i have no sympathy for rapists what so ever
ayumikoshiro 22nd-Feb-2013 08:18 pm (UTC)
Link please

It's seriously disturbing how many people are unaware of what exactly counts as rape. We definitely need to spread awareness further than no means no. There are so many other situations that apply.
shineebambi 22nd-Feb-2013 09:22 pm (UTC)
of course i cant find the actual study at the moment when i want it but this is a basic run up of a smaller one done with similar variable just with a smaller sample size. Its an opinion piece obvisiously on the smaller study but it has the facts and quotes in it

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/11/12/rapists-who-dont-think-theyre-rapists/

Edited at 2013-02-22 09:25 pm (UTC)
_clochette_ 24th-Feb-2013 06:12 am (UTC)
this, this, this. the enthusiastic consent/"yes means yes" paradigm is seriously so much wiser because it covers so much more. whatever MRAs and college dudebros wanna say, there are so many scenarios in which a woman cannot simply say "no" when she means it. enthusiastic consent, on the other hand, is way less ambiguous, and is definitely what I will teach my sons and daughters.
ashiva 22nd-Feb-2013 07:18 pm (UTC)
I'm kinda shocked that she had to request this as it should be a standard procedure in all rape cases.
missnothings 22nd-Feb-2013 07:31 pm (UTC)
I am so sickened by all of this. I've avoided pretty much all the posts on this issue, because as a Park Shi Hoo fan, it's too hard.

I just find it unbelievable that he would do something like this, but then all the evidence is stacking up against him, and I can't not believe it anymore.

I feel sick and dirty for being his fan now. I hate that.
winegums 22nd-Feb-2013 07:34 pm (UTC)
ik how you feel girl, I loved The Princess' Man and now idt I can watch it again for a long time. As a rule I like actors for their work and their personal/offscreen life is not my business, but something like this is impossible to ignore and makes me sick.
asth77 22nd-Feb-2013 07:35 pm (UTC)
same.
missnothings 22nd-Feb-2013 07:41 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I was considering re-watching TPM, but that ain't happening for a loooooooooooooooong time now. I'm just glad I finished watching Cheongdamdong Alice before this broke. I never would have finished it had it been earlier.

I'm the same way with how I try to view actor's projects and personal lives as different, but sometimes it's too hard, especially with this kind of crime. I just can't do it.
winegums 22nd-Feb-2013 07:46 pm (UTC)
I'm just glad I watched TPM already - Hong Soo-hyun and Moon Chae-won are worth supporting, as is Moon Geun-young in CDDA (edit: that'll teach me to read, I missed the part where you said you'd seen it already) but his face would prob. make me sick at this point.

I have no problems with watching someone's work if they've had past issues with drugs or are recreational users (idc what anyone says about Joo Ji-hoon or Park Shi-yeon) bc that is their personal issue, but rape? No way.

Edited at 2013-02-22 07:47 pm (UTC)
muzegrey 22nd-Feb-2013 08:38 pm (UTC)
Honestly, I doubt they will find anything because usually these drugs wear off really quickly. This should have been done the morning after.
asnindie 22nd-Feb-2013 09:19 pm (UTC)
Dramabeans has been strangely silent about the whole issue. I wonder why.
asth77 22nd-Feb-2013 09:39 pm (UTC)
Dramabeans is not a news blog, they choose the news they want to translate very occasionnaly, whenever they feel the need to...
Actually I see no reason as to why they would have to make a post about it.

asnindie 22nd-Feb-2013 10:09 pm (UTC)
Becuase alot of people I know take as their sole drama source, my sis didn't even know and she's a hardcore drama fan. They've covered other stuff before like Jae Hee's secret marriage, Go Soo's engagement and other stuff like court cases and actor issues. Wouldn't this have a negative effect on his career? It's not like it's a trivial non story.
asth77 22nd-Feb-2013 10:26 pm (UTC)
yes perhap's, but they're not journalists, they're just bloggers. They are not forced to write every scandal.
They don't have the responsability to inform ppl and they've never had it... Unlike allkpop, soompi, hancinema, etc. They just want to write about whatever they want to write, they're not blogging to inform ppl.


I mean they might report it later and make a kind of summary of this and give their opinion, but I hope you're not reproaching them not to do so, because if ppl want to find out actors and actresses news, they can go to Hancinema and they'll get everything, but that's definitely not the purpose of Dramabeans.
muzegrey 22nd-Feb-2013 10:20 pm (UTC)
She is not a big fan of him. I know that much.
asth77 22nd-Feb-2013 10:29 pm (UTC)
hm they are different ppl running this blog.
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