5:24 pm - 03/22/2013

This is possibly a #fandomfreakout?

Alternative titles:
"If a fandom had a collective neck, this is the group of people I would choose to choke."

"Super Show Information from Naver LIVE chat with a side of fandom idiocy"


On March 21st, two things happened to enrage somewhat pissy Super Junior fans. 1) Super Junior held a Naver LINE chat event in which Henry and Zhou Mi were present, Zhou Mi and Eunhyuk stated they would be more involved in Super Show and positive things were said about both Henry and Zhou Mi, with Eunhyuk and Shindong even approaching the topic of them not being onstage much/being side-lined and it being unfair. 2) Zhou Mi posted on weibo about Heechul for a second time in consecutive days.

The weibo post in question:
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Heechul hyung let me post this recent picture for everyone, he misses you all  (he) came back from the army forces to see us all, everybody please love him

Photos and quotes from LINE chat event
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When introducing Henry and Zhou Mi:
Shindong: "Actually, when we have concerts, there are people who we felt sorry to introduce them late."
Eunhyuk: "And also,together with us Super Junior for a long time,we practice together,we eat together in our dorms,we share joys and sorrows, there are a couple of friends like that. They are Super Junior M members, Henry and Zhou Mi! Let's invite them to make their greetings!"

Later on in the chat:
Shindong asked what HenMi has prepared specially for the concert. Zhou Mi said there is M's performances and also stages with SJ members also increased.
Eunhyuk: "Actually, during all this time, it was a pity. In Zhou Mi and Henry's case, there is something that everyone needs to understand. They are always here at the concert venue, they come and they wait for a long period of time in the waiting room. It is such a long time that, when they appear for awhile on stage and they go back and wait for a long time again. These two friends actually have a lot of passion on stage, it is a pity that there are not many chances to perform together."
Shindong: "Something really touching is that during SS4, not sure if it was Zhou Mi or Henry, but one of them said that it was really a happy feeling to be able to perform and receive applause in Korea. When I heard it, the feeling of finally being able to perform comfortably on stage, I felt happy too."
Eunhyuk: "Although they are Super Junior M members, but it is a concert together with us,this time Henry and Zhou Mi will be participating more."

They also gave hints as to what 'characters' each member will play during certain stages, indicating Zhou Mi and Henry will be involved in these kinds of stages during the concert:
"The boys were giving hints about the characters that they each will play. Eunhyuk's character has long nails, Yesung's character is tanned, Shindong's character gets angry, Ryeowook, Sungmin's character has a wide forehead and is bald, Zhoumi's character laughs a lot, Henry's character has blond hair and knows martial arts, Kyuhyun's character is vulgar/rude and Kangin's character has a moustache."

These things were further aggravated when SMtown's facebook, the Super Junior official Weibo and twitter posted pictures, of the LINE event, including pictures of Henry and Zhou Mi, as a 'Super Junior' event. With not only13 appeasing distinction for Zhou Mi and Henry's presence. Plus, the merchandise for Super Show 5 Seoul was revealed, with  Zhou Mi and Henry having some merchandise (a cushion) for Super Show for the first time.

Some 'fans' took to Zhou Mi's weibo and spammed with negative, hateful comments. These 'fans' were in distinct camps leave two different kinds of hateful comments:


  • the delusional HanChul shippers that claimed Zhou Mi was trying to 'replace Han Geng', 'gain attention by using Heechul' and questioning why, oh why, would Heechul pass photos on to Zhou Mi when he could have any other member post on his behalf. A LOT of hate comments took this kind of angle.

  • The 'fans' that saw comments about him 'replacing Han Geng' and used Han Geng as a basis to attack him because, in the eyes of the fandom, Han Geng and Zhou Mi are mortal enemies.

  • The Only13ers that were raging about him being included more in Super Show/having merchandise/being labeled as Super Junior on various 'official' SNS platforms. These left a range of hate comments from the age old 'Super Junior is 13 (and you are not in it)' to accusations of wanting to replace ex-members, accusing him of posting Heechul's photo without Heechu's permission, siding with jilted shippers (as they do for pretty much any ship he's ever tainted) or just simply stating how they hated him upon first sight for no reason.

Mitangs and sane ELFs responded by arguing with those leaving hate comments, making weibo a sea of wank. Zhou Mi deleted the post about Heechul and lurked online for a bit while Mitangs tagged support #周觅加油#, sent him supportive mentions (and funny/cute animal pictures), and left messages to the haters that could be summarised as 'it's fine if you don't like him but can you stop being pathetic?'. Some tried to reason with some Only13ers, but alas, Only13ers do not respond to logic nor reason and will not simply stop leaving hate messages nor do they understand how absolutely no one cares whether or not they like Zhou Mi and Henry.

Heechul spoke about this briefly on Sundong Cafe, as if to clarify the weibo-post situation.
"When I had an accident, Zhoumi was a trainee in SM. He visited me in the hospital very often, so I like him a lot. Yesterday, he uploaded my photo on weibo because I forgot my weibo password. Thank you."

Hopefully some fans realised how dumb it was to over-react over something as simple as Heechul using Zhou Mi's weibo account.


Sources: weibo translation and pictures: SunshineZhouMi (1, 2, 3), Naver LINE chat translations: stringswithHenry (1, 2,) miniblues Sundong Cafe translation: heequeenting

tldr of this post; apparently Only13 is still a thing, Zhou Mi is a plague on all ships, Heechul wants you to shut up but SS5 is going to be really good.
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mearii87 22nd-Mar-2013 05:35 pm (UTC)
i just cannot fathom how people hate the two of them. like seriously. WHAT ISN'T TO LOVE???

hongaerin 22nd-Mar-2013 05:36 pm (UTC)
Only13ers still exist ? Seriously ?
I thought they were not relevant anymore...
Urgh let Zhou Mi and Henry alone, these boys are too perfect for you !
fadeintoyou 22nd-Mar-2013 05:40 pm (UTC)
damn only13 elfs need to come to terms. zhoumi & Henry has always been flawlessly talented for me & way overlooked & underused.
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 05:49 pm (UTC)
I don't get it! I don't know what I find more infuriating:
- Fans that 'support Only13' but 'quite like/can appreciate HenMi in SJM'/'Don't hate HenMi'
- the stubborn haters
- the ones that quote shit Leeteuk said years ago as if their stubborn support of Only13 is ~justified~ because ~Leeteuk said protect13~ but ignore the tine Siwon told them to shut up, Heechul swore at them, Heechul told them to support all 15 or gtfo, Kyuhuyn refused to sing on stage because dick fans were chanting over HenMi's lines and sour faced a full 2 day concert, time Ryeowook and Donghae have said things to support HenMi, the times Leeteuk has bluntly said to stop only13, to stop chanting, to accept HenMi as part of SJ because they "will allow Super Junior to last for years to come".
- the only13ers that are FINE with Henry but toss all the hate at Zhou Mi. If you can accept one ACCEPT THE OTHER
- people that are a combination of these things because they can't make up their minds.


I'm glad Eunhyuk and Shindong said 'it's a shame they aren't more involved' because it IS. They are so talented ad so underused I'm glad the members of SJ are expressing some kind of...annoyance that they are sidelined.
asnindie 22nd-Mar-2013 05:42 pm (UTC)

aku_rin 22nd-Mar-2013 06:12 pm (UTC)
MTE
yesungholic 22nd-Mar-2013 05:42 pm (UTC)
how can that Only13 crap still exist?
seriously! HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THESE TWO BOYS? THEY ARE PRECIOUS!
if ELF's start shouting "only 13" when Henry or Zhoumi appear on stage, we'll have a problem -_-
caramelorchoco 22nd-Mar-2013 05:45 pm (UTC)
only13 will hopefully be an extinct species soon. i'm praying for it.

SUPER SHOW 5 THOUGH.
SO FREAKING EXCITED.
even though i'm not even going lol
myiuchan 22nd-Mar-2013 05:46 pm (UTC)
i wish i could burn only13.. holy fuck how is this still a issue??? jfc go away, it's been five years stop being dumb and grow the fuck up.


and that's it. i was going around the mimi tag on weibo and i kinda needed to write that jfc
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 05:51 pm (UTC)
the Zhou Mi tag on weibo makes me want to scream some times. I went on yesterday and saw this new wave of bullshit after months of things getting so much better and his popularity rising and baby winning awards...
and then people have to go be assholes.
mearii87 22nd-Mar-2013 05:46 pm (UTC)
seriously.

jesymphony 22nd-Mar-2013 11:45 pm (UTC)
OMG I was all angry and pissed than I saw your gif and burst out laughing. A+
ueda_hyo 22nd-Mar-2013 05:48 pm (UTC)
I've always said they should be called assholes13.

I'm glad sm is letting them participate more, but would have loved it more if they were officially part of the main group from the beginning. I hope sm at least acknowledge what a bad decision that was? IDK
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
I'm hoping SM are going 'k so Henry's finished at Berklee now and Zhou Mi isn't quite the hate figure he was we have a shit load of groups to back us up and most of the fandom will stick around at this point NOW WE ADD THEM' and just get it over and done with, or have Zhou Mi have a solo project to be released in Taiwan where he has a strong following and a shit load of friends.

But yeah all this exposure and involvement this year, I'm hoping is building up to them upgrading their Super Junior membership passes or smth.
frantastic 22nd-Mar-2013 05:54 pm (UTC)
it was confirmed by the Peruvian producers that 11 members would come to the SS5 in South America, which basically means HenMi are coming (yassss) but I've read that some Chilean fans are planning (FFS) on chanting (UGHHH) only13 during Don't Don (flips all the tables)

I can't believe HenMi still have to deal with this.
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 06:00 pm (UTC)
ARE
THEY
FUCKING
JOKING

if they do my opinion of Chilian fans for anything will forever be tainted I already had reservations due to previous concerts by Dir en grey where fans broke in to hotel rooms and generally acted bad. I'm hoping this is like when there was talk of fans giving Exo-M a black ocean at SS4 and it's just 2 or 3 fans posting a lot of twitter saying they'll do it but 99.8% of the crowd isn't going to take part.

Why would they? WHY? SJ will just turn around and say 'next world tour? no stops for Chile'
yumematsu 22nd-Mar-2013 06:04 pm (UTC)
I CAN'T BELIEVE ONLY13 IS STILL A THING WTF

but seriously sm just add them to regular suju and tell the fans to fuck off if they don't like it - I'm pretty sure only13 is just a REALLY LOUD minority at this point and they're ruining the fun for everybody else. i would be like 100x more interested in regular suju if henmi were there
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 06:09 pm (UTC)
yeah seriously only13 are a minority group now and SM needs to quit pandering to them and start doing more shit to please fans hat support henmi
aku_rin 22nd-Mar-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
THIS FANDOM, IDE. Arghsdfjhaj
Every time I read something about these wankers I'm reduced to a big ball of anger and venom. ARGH
8jj6 22nd-Mar-2013 06:15 pm (UTC)
I'm a total outsider to this fandom but I don't understand only13 still carrying on since Kibum and Hangeng have officially or unofficially left Super Junior.

Hope Henry and Zhou Mi get even more popular with future projects and while those only13ers foam at the mouth, the two boys will just be like (◡‿◡✿)
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 06:20 pm (UTC)
I'm in the fandom and idefk what only13's problem is for them to hold of for 5 years to their stupid ass opinion
hadashi_no_eden 22nd-Mar-2013 06:15 pm (UTC)
How can only 13 even still be a thing? Kibum peaced out long ago. These idiots need to group up. Zhou Mi and Henry are so precious that I wish they were full time in SJ especially since more and more of them will be going into the army.
norringtons 22nd-Mar-2013 06:18 pm (UTC)
Psh, I know right? Kibum is GONE, Hangeng is GONE. They need to get over themselves. Zhou Mi and Henry add a great energy to the group that had been needed for awhile.
norringtons 22nd-Mar-2013 06:15 pm (UTC)
Firstly, I teared up a bit seeing Heechul. Was never a huge stan of him, but I do miss the guy and his energy. It'll be great when he comes back. August right?

Secondly, I can't believe Only13er's still exist. Must be the delusional fans that still think Kibum will come back, or that Zhou Mi is trying to replace Han Geng. UGH. Some ELF's they are.
devilstay 22nd-Mar-2013 06:20 pm (UTC)
Would sment forget only13ers already? They are crazy, yes, but a small minority of crazy. I fucking wish sment wouldn't indulge all their crazy/saesang fans. jfc. I hate it so much, because it destroys everything. fuck them all seriously. fuck sment too, if they'd kept to their guns, fans wouldn've dealt with their shit already.
misswaldorf 22nd-Mar-2013 06:36 pm (UTC)
omg I cant believe only13 still exist.

penipenpen 22nd-Mar-2013 06:43 pm (UTC)
I swear, those only13ers aren't even loyal to their 'only13' cause I have this feeling that no matter how they don't like HenMi to be part of SJ, they don't consider Kibum (who was one of the original line-up) as part of SJ now since he's been MIA for who knows how long already. So much for their 'only13' cry.

Finally, SM saw the light and gave these two amazing human beings a chance toshow what they really got (and to screw off those haters)

With this, I will definitely watch SS5. \O/
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 07:07 pm (UTC)
idk i've come across some severely delusional people that think Kibum will come back and Han Geng ~could reunite one day~
the_erotomanic 22nd-Mar-2013 06:59 pm (UTC)
does anyone know who that person is with heechul is?

i'm so happy that zhou mi and henry have a bigger role in ss5. and i hope they do more activities in korea and china.
eternityras 22nd-Mar-2013 07:00 pm (UTC)
i don't get only13, there aren't even 13 members in suju anyway
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 07:06 pm (UTC)
it amuses me because if we add up all the members active and in the army and Henry and Zhou Mi....that makes 13.

>> you can have your 13. just not the same 13 as before
phonominal 22nd-Mar-2013 07:40 pm (UTC)
How can people be so mean? If you don't like someone then that's fine but all this hate is really immature.
It's nice to hear the "official" (whatever that means) members stick up for HenMi and wanting them to be included in more activities.
epona 22nd-Mar-2013 07:41 pm (UTC)
it's funny because they are 13 with henry and mi added
soramai 22nd-Mar-2013 07:44 pm (UTC)
oh god ...
milknote 22nd-Mar-2013 07:46 pm (UTC)
honestly, i'm not a SuJu stan at all but i just can't believe people could be this hateful and immature. i'd ask if they ever stop to think that Henry and Zhou Mi are human, and that this level of hatred and abuse could really hurt their feelings/confidence but then i'd have to acknowledge that the "fans" themselves are human, and the jury's still out on that one.
sobaek 22nd-Mar-2013 08:12 pm (UTC)
I honestly think Zhou Mi is affected by it. SS4 he was really shy and withdrawn on stage (I think he said something about it and feeling uncomfortable onstage with SJ?) and in the NaverLINE chat other than when he was pm made to talk, he was shy and reserved. I really think he's cautious when being seen with SJ because of how fans might react. Henry, for a while now, doesn't have it quite as bad as Mi? And he tends to talk and involve himself more, but Mi holds back a lot. Previously he talked about losing his self-confidence and building it back up...he's had a lot of knocks. This is a really ill-timed one because he would've been feeling really good after winning stuff at the Hit King Chinese Music Awards and the first concerts of SS5 start tomorrow, and he's getting bashed over dumb shit.

though, because it was a lot of crying over him spoiling another ship I hope he just rolled his eyes at it? Before he got hacked and left weibo he made me chuckle at a post about coming online to see people "furiously barking" and not really caring about it.

ugh it just annoys me that they can't have a single shred of respect or decency to not mindlessly bash someone.
jacky_snoopy 22nd-Mar-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
OMFG I CAN'T BELIEVE ONLY13ers STILL EXISTS?!?!

they can go jump off a bridge and can SJ please have SS5 come to the US. We will gladly have Henry and Zhoumi THANK YOU.
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