12:52 pm - 06/20/2012

SM-YG Heats Up Summer with Super Junior & 2NE1's Simultaneous Comeback Next Month



Two biggest rivaling agencies SM and YG are about to have a showdown this coming summer.

SM Entertainment and YG Entertainment both have been in tight competition, and are about to get down again as they present their big name idol groups around the same time. Super Junior and 2NE1 are said to be returning on stage mid-July.

A source tells, "The simultaneous comeback of these two star groups from SM and YG is sure to have a ripple effect in the industry!" He adds, "The result of the competition is surly the talk of the town as the confrontation should present an interesting outcome. All other agencies are already adjusting their schedules to avoid this period for their comebacks. This clash is the most anticipated event in the industry today."

The top two idol groups of Super Junior and 2NE1 facing each other will surely heat up the summer indeed.

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For me, SM will obviously win, of course, but let's see about that. 
t8l8 20th-Jun-2012 06:19 am (UTC)
KBS only counts KBS shows for the broadcasting score and the WG's broadcasting score of 4782 was way too high compared to what I've seen from other artists in the past who have appeared on a lot of KBS shows.

If you look at the Music Bank score for the combined points for digital + CD sales, BB got 9682 and WG got 5998. WG didn't come close especially when it came to the album sales score (WG 513 vs BB 3651). They only won based on the over inflated broadcasting score and they only won by a mere 229 points. WG didn't win for Be My Baby because they were against SNSD. SNSD are at their peak right now and do well in all 3 areas - digital, CD and broadcasting.

Edited at 2012-06-20 06:26 am (UTC)
akaich0u 20th-Jun-2012 06:26 am (UTC)
The only math I am following is that presented by KBS here. It was incredibly close, yes, but the numbers aren't lying. I don't know where you got the 9682/5998 numbers*, but those were not the ones used for calculating the score...and therefore neither here nor there.

I'm a WG fanatic but I'm also a stats nerd and just a believer in the truth, man. I was genuinely curious about how Infinite won and when someone took the time to explain it to me all was clear and well. You're gonna have to point me to some articles or sources that share your suspicion of inflation and do some tabulating based on appearances and sales disparity to have me take it seriously. It's an opinion, yes, but far from a validated one otherwise.

*ETA: Ok, I see you added the digital and phys sales. My bad there. Still, calling foul play in the realm of inflation in the one score where the competition beat out your fave...yeah, other people are gonna have to start agreeing before I can attempt to.

Edited at 2012-06-20 06:30 am (UTC)
t8l8 20th-Jun-2012 06:34 am (UTC)
I got the 9682/5998 from combining the digital + album scores.
BB 6031 + 3651 = 9682
WG 5485 + 513 = 5998

I also believe in the truth and that's why I believe Big Bang deserved to win more but KBS wasn't going to give them a win that easily if they could help it. If we base it purely on who's doing better on the charts overall, BB should've won hands down because they came in #1 for both the weekly digital and album charts and WG couldn't touch their CD sales. WG only won because of the over inflated broadcasting score.

Edited at 2012-06-20 06:39 am (UTC)
akaich0u 20th-Jun-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
Thanks, I didn't initially realized you had added the first and final rows in doing so.

If we base it purely on who's doing better on the charts overall
And if Mnet didn't place so much importance in a voting system that could be totally bombarded willy-nilly, WG would've won. But these people get to decide how they want to give their award, and if they want broadcasting and fan votes to be a big deal, I'm fine with that. I don't feel comfortable saying Inspirits autorobot spammed the Mnet poll because I don't know they did that. Likewise, deciding someone fudged the broadcast numbers for a group based on what I've observed only is also out of my confidence zone. Like someone said down there, Sistar managed to get 9000 points, so who knows what is possible? I respect your opinion but personally I wouldn't assert someone is cheating unless I had the evidence at hand.
mangomuffins 20th-Jun-2012 06:43 am (UTC)
lol i don't like this phrase but i guess it's an issue of "hate the game, not the player" for you. i understand where you're coming from but there's more at play than just physical and digital sales for all the music shows. big bang did (initially) do better on the charts compared to wonder girls but there are more factors than sales that help you win on these shows.
mangomuffins 20th-Jun-2012 06:38 am (UTC)
you're seriously making a big deal out of nothing though. during 4minute vs sistar week, 4minute got 7k broadcasting points while sistar got 9.5k. wonder girls didn't even pass 5k. of course wonder girls is going to get more broadcasting points than big bang since they're actively promoting and appearing on variety shows while big bang isn't. they had almost equal digital sales scores, and whereas big bang had more physical album points, wonder girls made up for it with broadcasting points. i'm not seeing the foul play here.

Edited at 2012-06-20 06:38 am (UTC)
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