3:56 am - 10/27/2013

YG being an ass to his own artists: The Winner Ver.


[TV Zoom-In] Team B loses on ‘WIN’, it doesn’t mean good-bye forever, right?

[TV리포트=김가영 기자] The grand battles of 10 week came to an end. There were no unexpected twists. Team A, who seized victory twice in the first two battles, once again beat Team B, marking the finale of the long journey. Immediately after the wrap-up of the survival program, Team A kick-starts their preparation to make a debut as WINNER. And then there remains Team B.

The final episode of ‘WHO IS NEXT: WIN’ aired on Oct 25 through Mnet captured the very last survival battle that determined the fate of Teams A and B. The two Teams unleashed all their potential and talents they polished in the last 10 weeks. They were up against each other in the category of remaking a song, dance and self-composed song.

The first round of battle was about showcasing remade song. The mission given to the Teams was remaking YG’s experienced artist Teddy’s song. Team A said, “This is the last song so we are going to take into account what the public would like.” In the process of remaking a song, Team A garnered much popularity from the audience by focusing more on the melody and the stage contents rather than the lyrics.

Team B, on the other hand, designed their concept with the aim to “embrace the stories” of each one of them. Their plan revolved around their personal stories, including the stage structure. Team A focused on the trees, while Team B paid attention to the entire forest. YG’s professional artists who were present at the battle to cheer them on showed great interest in Team B’s unique theme.

The following round of battle of dance was an opportunity to maximize Team B’s charms. Team A’s performance was about tranquility, while Team B’s was powerful and mighty. The members of Team B were like fishes in the sea, unleashing their full talents with no inhibitions. Despite their young age, the members left the female audience awe-struck with their masculine spell. 2NE1’s MINZY commented, “They stole my heart. They are like the Black Hole.”

The final round of the battle was self-composed song session. Team B had a traumatic experience with self-composing. This was the only section that Team B scored lower than Team A. Moreover, the team showed a hint of fragmentation in their teamwork while preparing for self-composed song battle, which was rare for the closely tied members.

Team B’s Kim Jin Hwan said, “We lost the self-composed song section so this time we have win this one”, but added, “I was reminded of the nightmare of the previous battle.” While deciding the theme of the battle, Bobby suggested the song should hold their “personal stories.”

Team B created a genuine performance, which drew on the experiences of their training period including their personal stories. The best part was B.I. He sang like he was confessing a story of his mother, showcasing an honest and touching story through the song.

2NE1’s CL commented, “I was deeply touched. It reminded me of us when we were training.” Yang Hyun Suk, the founder of YG Entertainment, praised the team by saying, “Team B’s song made my tears well up. It’s because they hold their stories. This was perfectly suited for the final battle. I think I’ll enjoy listening to this from now on.”

In the 2-hour performance, Team B showcased honesty, masculine charm, passion and teamwork. The audience, YG’s professional artists, their competitor Team A and even Yang Hyun Suk was touched by their work and were deeply impressed.

Team A’s leader Kang Seung Yoon commented, “Team B did an excellent work,” but Team A was called as the final winner. The members were lost in mingled feelings of joy and disappointment.

Kang Seung Yoon said, “I personally think that Team B did much better.” Team B’s leader B.I. accepted the result and commented, “There are no regrets, which makes me happy, and I am deeply grateful. Right this moment everyone is WINNER.”

Team B marked the finale with their tears. Those tears seemed to connote many things. The final winning team, Team A, won the chance to make a debut under the group name WINNER. Then what is left for Team B?

Team A drew much attention from the beginning with the already well-known Kang Seung Yoon and Lee Seung Hoon in the group. In comparison, Team B was less known because the members consisted of new faces. However, each episode was a foothold for Team B to leave stronger impression, and they began securing a broad range of fans.

Although making a debut as WINNER is no longer happening for them, Team B did more than enough to reveal their talents and potential. Artists from YG and a large number of fans tried to convince Yang Hyun Suk to allow both teams to make a debut, but he stayed firm. However, his eyes showed a hint of doubt about his decision.

Now with the final battle over, Team B and his fans are keenly awaiting for Yang’s decision.

Basically YG is trying to say that even tho B was "more deserving", A "The lacking team" won just because LSH&KSY
Way to shoot your new Artist in the foot YG

Screw you YG!(With love from Winner)

Source : yg-life.com
beanii 27th-Oct-2013 04:29 am (UTC)
The implications that are being pulled from this article I feel are a bit contrived.
YG-life pulls articles from other sources often as long as it pertains to something that's happening within the company. There are other articles on their that praise both teams hardwork and how they worked well under pressure. This article was focused on the question of whats going to happen to team B which is probably why there was a lot of praise towards them, to bring up hope.

Edited at 2013-10-27 04:30 am (UTC)
asteri5k 27th-Oct-2013 04:40 am (UTC)
No, they only pull stories that they approve.

They don't put in stories like
"Sandara watching dramas and adopting kittens"
"CL's instagram update with etc etc"
"Park Bom's new face"
"GDragon seen in a party of some kind"
"Seungri with a girl"
"Daesung in Japan"

Also statements like this are nagl:

"Team A focused on the trees, while Team B paid attention to the entire forest. YG’s professional artists who were present at the battle to cheer them on showed great interest in Team B’s unique theme."

"Team A drew much attention from the beginning with the already well-known Kang Seung Yoon and Lee Seung Hoon in the group. In comparison, Team B was less known because the members consisted of new faces. "

Remove these two lines maybe we'll talk about the article being professional.
beanii 27th-Oct-2013 04:57 am (UTC)
...A source is a place of origin, so when I say they pull these from other sources, I mean that they aren't YG originals. I think you also misunderstood what I meant by posting only articles the pertain to what's happening in the company. I understand trivial articles like that wouldn't be released, I was talking more along the lines of album releases, conferences, events overseas, programs (win), etc.

The title of this article is "Team B loses on ‘WIN’, it doesn’t mean good-bye forever, right?", so I would only expect the bias some of the statements show towards team B. I never mention anything about whether it's professional or not, just its intent. My point was that the opinion of the author does not speak for everyone in the company. I don't even understand why the second statement is questionable when it's the truth. Kang seung yoon was popular from Super star K, and before the show had official releases. Same goes with Seung Hoon who is well known from kpop star. To say that many people weren't interested in their fate would be a lie.

Edited at 2013-10-27 04:58 am (UTC)
uglypricetag 27th-Oct-2013 05:23 am (UTC)
you can be encouraging to one team without knocking the other one down though. i get what you're saying but that bloody forest metaphor makes me rage lol
canxi 27th-Oct-2013 06:30 am (UTC)
In regards to that metaphor-- it's more grating because in the BTS footage, you had Mino talking w/ the rest of the team about how they need a song that the public will like. So, if that wasn't thinking of the whole forest I don't know what was. They also worked really hard on those lyrics too. Both teams did--they both were thinking of how to move people and they both accomplished it from what I saw.

I also don't agree that having two well known people on a team makes it easier on them. Sure, it gains attention but I see that as more of a stigma because people will only look at that and use it as a means to undermine whatever it is you do--good or bad--and that definitely happened.

I like Team B, too. They are great--and I hope the best for them, sincerely. I get that people need some reassurance about their fate but like you said--you don't have to knock down another team to do so. Maybe, it just sounds harsher when you translate it but I mean...I'm reading this article and feel like it's full of shade, lol. Everyone already feels bad, it's like rubbing salt in a wound.
asteri5k 27th-Oct-2013 05:41 am (UTC)
I understand it's from a source but the process of it usually goes: check the source, find it worthy, post it in YG-life and translate it for intl fans.

It's their website, so by virtue of it being YG-life. YGE acknowledges the article.
Acknowledging and translating said biased, unprofessional article is not a good look.
The examples I gave means I haven't seen them post trivial, unprofessional articles about their other artists.

I mean I get Team B should get some love of some sort, but this article with those lines isn't it.

Edited at 2013-10-27 05:48 am (UTC)
porcupinegloves 27th-Oct-2013 05:48 am (UTC)
lol yes, but this article is basically bashing team a while praising team b... they chose to put an article bashing their new boy group on a official yg website, like???? lmao
bamboo 27th-Oct-2013 07:04 am (UTC)
I feel like every time someone doesn't vow outright allegiance to Team A and dare to give even a hint of praise toward Team B, there are a lot of Team A stans who get up in arms about it. Every single little thing is scrutinized and gods help you if you're still supporting Team B at this point.
sayuai 27th-Oct-2013 01:21 pm (UTC)
Mte. No one complained about favoritism when Team A got favored in earlier episodes.
vanhangels 27th-Oct-2013 02:25 pm (UTC)
lol. read earlier post of WIN. There was ALOT of complaint.
porcupinegloves 27th-Oct-2013 02:34 pm (UTC)
people talked about it in literally every win post
bamboo 27th-Oct-2013 05:32 pm (UTC)
I saw some people complain, but it didn't do any good. Team A had an established storyline complete with sob stories right out of the gate, plus the support of their celebrity friends, and when it was getting obvious that the show was biased toward A, the show tried to make it up by doing a profile on B too, but it wasn't as good. Team B still got edited out anyway lol.
beanii 27th-Oct-2013 04:53 pm (UTC)
Imo it has nothing to do with Team or Team B, it's just YG. People are so jaded by their hate for him it's like they put on a nice new pair of tunnel vision goggles. Like seriously, I want to rant about the utter bullshit that people conclude in these types of articles.
Like seriously, CL was called out for favoritism by a Netizen in another post and everybody was up in her defense, this author chooses a favorite too and now YG's an utter demon. I swear we spend so much time trying to dehumanize this guy it gets annoying.
bamboo 27th-Oct-2013 05:32 pm (UTC)
Some people defended CL because calling her out for showing favoritism to Bobby was ridiculous. CL has no power over Team B, unlike YG, and she's not the only YGE senior who has showed favoritism. At some point, all of them have. Taeyang is clearly on A's side throughout the whole process, because he mentored A. TOP has singled out Bobby to return the affection. Seungri is firmly on Jinwoo, and therefore A's side. Bom picked Mino, KSY and B.I when they were in a line-up, and Taehyun during her time as a judge and in the final battle. Minzy, Bom, Seungri, and in part CL picked A during GD's concert, although the girls didn't judge by their personal preferences and/or friendships during the first battle, which was fair. It was the same thing that Tablo did when he said A was a guaranteed win already just because he's more familiar with A, when he hasn't even seen B yet, so he voted for which performance he liked better instead of which junior he was closer to. Taehyun, KSY and Mino (as far as I can recall, I can't remember if LSH and Jinwoo because I don't pay as much attention to them) have worn a lot of 2NE1 goodies that they could get only if the girls gave it to them personally (the 21 beanies & ssangpark shirts), while only B.I has a 2ne1 beanie.

Edited at 2013-10-27 05:35 pm (UTC)
beanii 27th-Oct-2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
YG had no power over who won either, it was up to viewers vote and how mnet edited the program. In both episodes CL had appeared on, she took the side of team b every time, not just Bobby in the final. That is unlike when they were asked about first impressions in the line-up or when Tablo was a bit a prejudice. In fact, right after he had made that comment to Team A, he apologized to team B and told them he was too early in making a judgement therefore returning to a neutral state. I'm not even trying to accuse CL of favoritism, but if we are going to hate YG for following a similar pattern, then why do we defend another. Also It's difficult to even make judgements about favoritism based on the merchandise they wear, because I'm pretty sure that is based on more than who someones favorite group is.
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