9:17 pm - 09/24/2018

BTS speaks at the 73rd @UN General Assembly in NYC

source: GMA
jazzygyu 25th-Sep-2018 12:42 am (UTC)
“I wanna hear your voice, I wanna hear your conviction. No matter where you're from, skin color, gender identity, just speak yourself.” - it’s kinda hard for me to believe the words he’s saying here when black army’s wrote big hit about the anti-blackness said within the army fandom and didn’t get a response back from them or the countless times we’ve asked for apologies for something one of the members has said or did and got nothing... I’m sorry but I’ve never felt “heard” as a black army or as he says regardless of my skin color.

Edited at 2018-09-25 12:43 am (UTC)
scionofawhisper 25th-Sep-2018 01:08 am (UTC)
And they also have ties with and work with male producers like supreme boi who writes about raping people and stuff. He must be making a ton of money off of royalities from bts' music. It's hard to take BTS seriously about topics like 'end violence' unless women don't count. :P

Edited at 2018-09-25 01:09 am (UTC)
jazzygyu 25th-Sep-2018 01:36 am (UTC)
Namjoon defiantly has a way with words...but I’m tired of pretty words. Don’t tell me you want to hear my voice or “speak yourself” when you ignore my issues every time someone ask you address it.

Edited at 2018-09-25 02:31 am (UTC)
belintuchiha 25th-Sep-2018 04:46 am (UTC)
This is my whole problem with this issue but people are blind and don't see past the pretty words.
nekobot 25th-Sep-2018 08:07 pm (UTC)
Same. It's not pleasant hearing him say stuff like this and wondering whether he doesn't understand how much difference it would actually make if they really, really used their platform to say things and give a voice to people that are suffering or if he just genuinely cares more about maintaining his celebrity because I'm not hearing what he's advocating here. Not in their speeches, and not even in their music anymore. I'm really sorry you feel let down as a black fan - considering there wouldn't even be a BTS without black culture and black music I don't know what they're thinking not valuing their black fans more and making sure they feel safe and included.

I don't want to be negative about this because he obviously worked hard at this, it must have been difficult for him to do this speech as well as he did and I don't want to diminish any sort of comfort people get from it but same as you need to feel supported as a minority I feel let down and shushed up as a victim of abuse every time I see complicit men in positions of power spouting Hallmark stuff like this without living it and getting praised for it.
jazzygyu 26th-Sep-2018 10:33 pm (UTC)
Sorry I don’t know how I missed your reply but...Yeah I dunno how much freedom BTS has so I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. I can read between the lines so I can tell they are trying...I guess for me though I want to them to actually say it I don’t wanna have to guess that they support me. I really admire Namjoon, every time he speaks I feel happy about what he is saying but then that doubt always comes back to me every time I think about certain issues with them. Maybe I just don’t know how to let go I’m not sure I’m probably just being dramatic...Fans say it’s not up to them it’s big hit but no one really knows the truth they don’t work with these idols. They can’t have it both ways either, fans wanna brag about BTS speaking up about things other idols are too scared to speak on and then turns around and say they can’t speak up at the same time. It’s always very convenient which arugument they will use too.
nekobot 28th-Sep-2018 02:59 pm (UTC)
I definitely think some of them want to do well, I just don't want them to get to cash in on performative wokeness and get taught that that's as far as they need to go, it sets such a crappy standard (especially if you think about how many female idols there must be that would love to be able to advocate against violence etc. but will never be able to do so because it would piss off their fanbase). I too get the idea that Namjoon really is interested in learning and not a hateful person at all (maybe just ignorant at times), and while he's still young and ego can get in the way he does have it in him to genuinely make a difference, but if fans keep praising him for doing the absolute least then it's less likely that he actually will. Not to mention BH are pushing this image but none of them actually get any extra time to actively spend to spend on researching and investing in the causes that they're supposed to be working for. They come across as humble and considerate in interviews but the type of praise their fans give can very easily get to their heads.

I'm still really curious what they would be like outside of Big Hit's influence. They were the ones that pushed woke as a business strategy while at the same time making sure the guys will never say anything even remotely controversial as to not lose out on any money.
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