2:39 am - 11/20/2018

Chinese members of groups post 9-dash-line picture after controversy on China/Taiwan issue



Quick summary of Golden Horse Awards controversy and why Chinese celebrities are making the same post on Weibo: Golden Horse Awards are the most prestigious film awards ceremony of the Chinese-speaking world and organized by a Taiwanese committee and held in Taiwan, most recently on 11/17/2018.

Director Fu Yue won an award for "Best Documentary" for film "Our Youth in Taiwan". She is viewed as pro-Taiwanese independence, which is a very controversial topic in mainland China. During her acceptance speech, it seemed like she openly advocated for Taiwanese independence. Chinese state-run newspapers and organizations instantly made posts on Weibo that rebutted his speech, including People's Daily, Communist Youth League, etc. Many top Chinese celebrities like TFBoys, Fan Bingbing, Angelababy, Zhang Yixing, Lu Han, Kris Wu, Dilireba, and more reblogged the posts that state-run media made. That includes GOT7 Jackson, EXO Lay, f(x) Victoria, WJSN Cheng Xiao, Mei Qi and Xuan Yi, Pristin Kyulkyung, Seventeen The8 and Jun. (couple of screenshots)

Essentially, every relevant celebrity is making Weibo posts on the matter in support of the government.

source: CEntNews1 1 2 3 4, asianjunkie, daredevil @onehallyu

All posts were made simultaneously, which makes me think - no matter what personal stance they have - the government probably influenced this... When you are trying to have a career in China it's damned if you do, damned if you don't...what do you think about this Omona?
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lelouchikaru 20th-Nov-2018 01:48 am (UTC)
As someone with Taiwanese roots I feel offended with this everytime, but of course, the PRC government are requiring them to post all about it or else they're doomed/the govt's trust on them will come into question. I remember unfollowing Lay and Victoria on IG after they posted the same picture following the ruling of UNCLOS favoring the Philippines in the Spratley Islands claim.

I wanna watch that movie though ;;;;;;
miyozari 20th-Nov-2018 01:56 am (UTC)
Since the South Sea conflict and some very questionable posts made by Chinese idols in Korean groups, I've kind of stopped giving a fuck about them. Lay and Victoria will peace out anyway as soon as their contracts are up and probably move permanently to China.

I understand that maintaining the trust of the Chinese public and government is important, but sometimes the easiest thing is to stay silent.

Frankly speaking, I just feel bad for Taiwanese idols like who are scrutinized both in China and Korea by xenophobic netizens.
lelouchikaru 20th-Nov-2018 02:01 am (UTC)
I understand that maintaining the trust of the Chinese public and government is important, but sometimes the easiest thing is to stay silent.

Point taken, but in a communist country like China, you can't be silent and oppose the government.
modestgoddess79 20th-Nov-2018 02:49 am (UTC)
Government’s are so scary. I tried to google something related to Rise of Phoenixes and I ended up finding all these articles about this Chinese Swedish? guy who was kidnapped by the Chinese government, missing for a month then released after he made some coerced statements.
Then there is the journalist who was tortured and dismembered under the Saudi Prince’s order.
And of course the good old USA is suppressing votes and stealing elections in Georgia and Florida plus whatever illegal thing Trump did this week.

Edited at 2018-11-20 02:52 am (UTC)
lelouchikaru 21st-Nov-2018 01:30 am (UTC)
That Swedish Chinese guy is actually from Hong Kong and he owned a bookstore that sells books criticizing the mainland government.
myrrhcat 20th-Nov-2018 02:51 am (UTC)
since it's so many celebs and all at once i can't really hold them responsible for it. no doubt this was coerced. if they were expressing their actual opinions i'm sure they would do more than repost the same image.
things must be awkward btwn chinese and taiwanese k-celebs though.
premonitioner 20th-Nov-2018 03:19 am (UTC)
yeah, I definitely think it's a covering their asses thing. If the Chinese government can disappear Fan Bing Bing for a month and then make her apologise for making money, they'd have no problem with punishing objectively smaller celebs who aren't openly supporting the government.
donutism 20th-Nov-2018 03:23 am (UTC)
I mean, tbh I wouldn't want to piss off the Chinese govt seeing what they can do to you in that country. Fan Bing Bing resurfaced just to post about this, and there is no Chinese govt interference? I doubt it.

As Taiwanese, I dunno I am a bit conflicted.
sciencebottle 20th-Nov-2018 05:56 am (UTC)
the fan bing bing ordeal was so terrifying to me jfc
rainstormraider 20th-Nov-2018 04:08 am (UTC)
Damn.
Democracy really is a myth.
scionofawhisper 20th-Nov-2018 05:56 am (UTC)
What do you mean? China isn't a democracy...?
sciencebottle 20th-Nov-2018 05:56 am (UTC)
Seeing as how they all posted pretty much simultaneously I don't think they really had any say. I love yixing so much and he's made it abundantly clear that he loves and treasures exo, but he (and the other artists here) are in a very very tough spot. I wouldn't know what to do either tbh, since saying something or saying nothing could get you into very very serious trouble.
tungatunga 20th-Nov-2018 07:12 am (UTC)
Lay is actually one of those who truly buy into this, he is a party member and PRC communist party youth ambassador
daynr 20th-Nov-2018 06:00 am (UTC)
I'm not impressed, especially with those who aren't fully mainland. And I feel for Taiwanese, as well as those parts of China who have a complicated relationship with the P.R.C.

It would be nice if we all stopped being so scared of ideas that differ from whatever truth we adopted at age child.
accioanime 20th-Nov-2018 06:55 am (UTC)
I used to work for the International office in my undergrad and we had a lot of Chinese international students. We got a feedback form complaining why our school had the Tibetan flag displayed (we had an "international" room with the flags of the world) and pretty much the person wrote a long essay that read like Chinese propaganda.

Also, I remembered how China sneakily built plants on what was now officially marked as Philippine territory and pretty much refused the adhere to the ruling that the island aint theirs as they claimed. Philippine military is kinda shit and have poor resources to defend the island so US military had to be called in to intervene.
lelouchikaru 21st-Nov-2018 01:26 am (UTC)
And then China will call out the US for prying in the dispute? I agree that the Philippine army is weak, but I'm sure Duterte is planning something big.
hellicoptajuuce 20th-Nov-2018 07:00 am (UTC)
Dqmn i wonder how tzuyu feels that some of her chinese labelmates followed along
synatri 20th-Nov-2018 07:03 am (UTC)
Sometimes I think I want to move to Taiwan, but ngl the Taiwan-China politics kind of scare me.
tungatunga 20th-Nov-2018 07:17 am (UTC)
Yes, they don't have much choice in that, but a lot of them believe in all this propaganda, don't forget they were raised in this totalitarian, nationalistic system, so where would they pick up critical thinking. Lay is communist party youth ambassador after all.
dior_chic 20th-Nov-2018 12:44 pm (UTC)
Mte. I know it probably feels better to think that they’re doing it because they have to, but I think that’s prob only a small percentage and it just comes off as wishful thinking . Overall because they grew up and were raised in this system, majority of these idols posting it genuinely believe in it.
senshicalico 20th-Nov-2018 08:22 am (UTC)
the whole damn thing makes me sad.
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