8:17 pm - 11/20/2018

FNC teases new girl group Cherry Bullet

the group was first teased, like...... a year ago, before FNC mysteriously stopped updating on them

source: Cherry Bullet official twitter (links to other social media can also be found there)

I believe Produce 48 contestant Park Haeyoon was confirmed to be a part of this in earlier news?
scionofawhisper 20th-Nov-2018 09:42 am (UTC)
I feel like using 'cherry' in the name of a girl group is the equivalent of using 'banana' in a boy group name, but otherwise... I really like it. It's powerful but sweet. :3 Also, the logo is cute with the cherry bullet.
done_na 20th-Nov-2018 10:18 am (UTC)
Ehhh such a big group? Good luck to them, they'd need something to stand out among all the active ggs.
horichansenpai Rumoured member lineup?20th-Nov-2018 10:19 am (UTC)

juhli 20th-Nov-2018 10:59 am (UTC)
I'm curious to know what happened behind the scenes that the debut got postponed..especially since they already had teasers....
pikapika217 20th-Nov-2018 11:15 am (UTC)
so far my only gripe is even numbers because now someone will have to always stand behind the others. DROP SOMEONE FNC!!!!!


I'd be more worried for AOA but they surprised everyone by actually having a monster successful comeback so ok.
lil_poisonfrog 20th-Nov-2018 11:23 am (UTC)
How everything went down with AOA pisses me off but tbf it's been almost 7 years since their debut, and I'll be shocked if they all renew and keep the group going. Even successful idols have a pretty set shelf life unless you have a big fandom. Sistar had nothing but #1 hits most of their run and they still figured it was more beneficial for the members to focus on solo careers.
pikapika217 20th-Nov-2018 11:29 am (UTC)
if that's the case at least they went out on top?

I'm glad Choa's prioritizing herself but I still miss her you know?
lil_poisonfrog 20th-Nov-2018 11:41 am (UTC)
Yeah I'm glad they got their redemption moment. I'm really hoping they get at least one more comeback in 2019 and that the female fans they gained keep up that support.

The level of backlash they got for their scandal was a fucking joke, and the way their male fans were all quick to dump them for Twice and other younger ggs coming up at the time was disgusting. One of the biggest examples of sexism in K-pop imo.

I do miss ChoA's presence but I also feel like they don't need her. Their vocals on the last mini sounded great (they put out some of the best b-sides of 2018 imo but anyway). Tbh I feel like ChoA's importance to the group has been retconned even though she was undeniably great at her job.
pikapika217 20th-Nov-2018 11:47 am (UTC)
I get why they'd try to diminish ChoA in the overall scope of the current line-up but she WAS the group for a long time, especially with having OSTs and other songs. It was very much her, Jimin and Yuna as the main girls.

I'm not sure what's going to happen to them but I hope all of them agree to it together you know? It just really sucks that girl groups' shelf live is so limited
lil_poisonfrog 20th-Nov-2018 12:13 pm (UTC)
Really? I was always under the impression that Seolhyun was the most popular member by far, with Jimin second after UPRS and stuff. Unless you mean before those two blew up, I wasn't paying attention to them back then so I wouldn't know.
pikapika217 20th-Nov-2018 12:14 pm (UTC)
You know, I'd probably swap Seohyun for Yuna in my prior comment but keep it otherwise the same. Choa's voice gave them that signature AOA sound and she herself was really popular - there's a reason why everyone was worried for the group when she left after all.
horichansenpai 20th-Nov-2018 11:31 am (UTC)
idk, FTI is joining CNB in the army next year so I think FNC's gonna need AOA more than ever for the next few years (unless SF9's been bringing in more money than I thought they were)
lil_poisonfrog 20th-Nov-2018 11:46 am (UTC)
I feel like most of the group's money probably comes from Seolhyun's solo work though. So they could just renew her and maybe Jimin too and not be much worse for wear without the others, considering how much money comebacks cost. Since they don't have a strong fandom I doubt they're making profits with album sales or concerts. Tbh it wouldn't surprise me if SF9 is doing better than them in that regard given the huge disparity in fandoms for ggs vs. bgs.

Don't get me wrong I'd love for them to stick around though. With the exception of some outlier songs I think they bring a sound to K-pop that no other group has.
benihime99 20th-Nov-2018 11:19 am (UTC)
Is this the same 11 member group that was supposed to debut last year?
lil_poisonfrog 20th-Nov-2018 11:28 am (UTC)
NO to all these members. The industry needs to learn something from all these middling IOI-offshoot groups. If you're not Twice or Izone, this concept will not work for you. I think even Momoland's fate is up in the air if the public doesn't like their next comeback.

The name is intriguing though, I wonder if they'll have a sexy concept.
premonitioner 20th-Nov-2018 12:04 pm (UTC)
I mean, the PD48 concept was....borrowing trainees from other companies for a limited amount of time. The majority of them are gonna try to debut with their original company. Big groups have been around for a long time too, it's not a new thing.

Edited at 2018-11-20 12:05 pm (UTC)
lil_poisonfrog 20th-Nov-2018 12:26 pm (UTC)
What 8+ member female groups have been successful for a long time besides SNSD and Twice? And I don't mean ones who did ok enough to last their entire contracts but had no impact otherwise, like Rainbow or Nine Muses.

And yeah I know about PD48, my point was as long as they're together they'll do well. As we've seen with IOI, having a girl from Produce in your group doesn't guarantee success (and a few of them haven't done much solo since then either). The only Izone girls I'm not too worried about are Sakura and Nako since they already have successful careers to go back to. For the rest it's totally up in the air after disbandment.
premonitioner 20th-Nov-2018 12:34 pm (UTC)
I think it's a bit much to expect trainees from mid to small tier companies to gain as much success as snsd or twice. they just don't have the same kind of money, teams or power behind them.

some groups from smaller companies might find success on the level of sistar or 4minute but they usually rely on one member to make the group well known for one reason or another, which is where the pd48 girls come in. it's not a guarantee but having a girl with an already established fan base is definitely a better bet at success than debuting a group full of nugus. Mnet already did some of their marketing for them.
lil_poisonfrog 20th-Nov-2018 12:46 pm (UTC)
Yes but my point is that presumably FNC will want this group to be as successful or more successful than AOA, who was undeniably a top-tier group from 2014-2016, and still doing ok now (all things considered). For a company of their size, I don't think a group that can't even get a song into the top 20 on Gaon will cut it, which is the case with most of the post-IOI groups.

Other than SNSD and Twice, every other gg I can think of that was ever considered top-tier (and not temporary like IOI) has had 7 or fewer members. So it's a much safer bet to go that route.

Edited at 2018-11-20 12:48 pm (UTC)
premonitioner 20th-Nov-2018 01:06 pm (UTC)
they haven't even debuted yet, i don't think you can make any judgements about their charting based on a couple of other groups - plus she's not even an IOI alumni. she's a 2018 PD contestant.

i think that companies have to find the balance between what worked in the past and what is currently on trend - bc they can't be stuck trying to recreate past successes, and they need to read the market for what's popular, and big groups are what is on trend, ioi alumni or not. FNC appeared to have been smart enough to add both Japanese and Chinese members to appeal to both those markets, not just one or the other, and hopefully they'll have been smart enough to add a variety of faces and styles bc imo that's what makes big groups work. popular groups with many members, male or female, have a wide variety of members. and of course, a good song. but FNC is pretty decent at those.
myungung 20th-Nov-2018 01:12 pm (UTC)
I feel like it's so big because there was an explosion in trainees and companies when kpop went more global a few years back and now they're dumping all their trainees in one group and hope something strikes, even if there are a few trainees lacking
lil_poisonfrog 20th-Nov-2018 02:06 pm (UTC)
Yup I think this is exactly what's happening, plus also the influence SNSD. I'd bet like 80% of 3rd gen girl groups are modeled off of them.
myungung 20th-Nov-2018 02:48 pm (UTC)
yea I think a lot of post-ioi/p101s1 groups are a great example of dumping all their trainees left to form a group. I think gugudan and momoland are very good examples of groups that could do with much less members, and they followed the 9 member formation
existingisfunny 20th-Nov-2018 12:18 pm (UTC)
dior_chic 20th-Nov-2018 12:37 pm (UTC)
I thought it said they’re releasing the song tomorrow and I was like....wait we know nothing about them and you’re dropping the song tomorrow? Lol that’s what nugus do, that sounds like a terrible plan. But I feel better knowing it’s to reveal the group

I’m curious how they’ll be concept wise. It makes sense they’re debuting since AOA will be coming to an end soon (unless they surprise me and renew)

Edited at 2018-11-20 12:38 pm (UTC)
myrrhcat 20th-Nov-2018 01:39 pm (UTC)
10 members? well at least there's no other currently active group with that number (unless you count wjsn minus china line). i kinda dig it.
(weki meki has had 8 since debut, dia and gugudan are now down to 8, pristin might be if xiyeon is really leaving... oh and of course there's snsd. 8 seems to be the number of the moment)
fallendaydreams 20th-Nov-2018 06:47 pm (UTC)
Cherry Bullet sounds like a sex toy, but I just hope they have a more refreshing concept than the current groups
lelouchikaru 21st-Nov-2018 01:15 am (UTC)
Are they gonna be the biggest hit on the stage?
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