7:51 pm - 11/29/2018

YG Ent using YT's copyright system to take down videos criticizing Jennie's lackluster performances



source: K-Vids, CronoDroid on r/kpop

Criticism on YG and Jennie is valid, hate towards her not. Stay on the right side Omona!
nekobot 30th-Nov-2018 12:21 am (UTC)
Yeah it's a sensitive topic to bring up but so often idol skills just get totally shattered when they're put against a Western counterpart that didn't get that training and just took some lessons or is self taught.

Really off-topic but there must be a TON of weird borderline money laundering going on in the training process because hardly any of these companies seem to have standout effective coaches for dancing, singing or acting and I feel like a ton of trainee debt is built up by paying what is probably just a relative or a friend of someone at the company getting a nepotism job and passing for a "vocal coach" or whatever (if anything the hair+make-up artists and stylists are the only ones doing a fantastic job with idols on the whole) (and surprise surprise most of those are women). Even a company like YG is not immune to this, god knows what's going on at all the nugu organised crime connected agencies. It's so cruel.

Jennie does have SOMETHING but her company just plain sucks at working with what they're given and making the best out of it. There have been cases of idols becoming more charismatic as they get older (I mentioned this in another post) so it's not like she's a lost cause, they really are just trying to force something that isn't there.
kenziekinz09 30th-Nov-2018 03:38 pm (UTC)
Late but I literally considered writing about this once.
nekobot 30th-Nov-2018 10:21 pm (UTC)
I would very much like to a read a well researched piece on it. There have been so many out and open tales of sketchiness that there must be one hell of a story behind it (the fact that they can just run up a bill for you without giving you an expense report with receipts is incredible)
kenziekinz09 1st-Dec-2018 04:08 pm (UTC)
I have part of it drafted. It’s definitely SM focused because that’s where I had the most to work with but unfortunately some of my sources have seemingly been scrubbed from the internet.
tungatunga 30th-Nov-2018 06:56 pm (UTC)
This, every time some paper bring up this "rigours training" I almost rolls my eyes to the back of the head, it's not accident that the best kpop vocalists get debuted basically just after they signed with company, all the vocal training take place somewhere else in more professional environment.

p.s. It's the same with Koreans working the longest hours, with only maybe 40% of that time spent on actual working.

Edited at 2018-11-30 07:05 pm (UTC)
nekobot 30th-Nov-2018 10:20 pm (UTC)
It's becoming a global problem (the hours put in vs actual efficiency thing) but yeah the way it's incorporated into entertainment seems to be so typically Korean.

What you said is right, the powerhouse vocals and amazing dancers already showed up with their skills in their audition tapes before they even started training. And the actual success stories where idols actively get better happen after they debut, where someone who is a terrible singer/dance somehow manages to learn on the job in maybe 2 or 3 years what they inexplicably couldn't be taught in the same amount of time they were training without their crazy idol schedule!
tungatunga 2nd-Dec-2018 01:42 pm (UTC)
And the saddest part is, that is because of their own initiative and effort not their agencies.
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