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mallmouse 7th-Dec-2018 01:02 pm (UTC)
Tried to do the shoot dance and now trying to come to terms with how much I suck at dancing, while still being unable to get that damn Shine song out of my head, where it's been playing ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT.


Maybe we should start getting worried about Jungkook after all. He may have seemed to be handling the whole insane fame thing pretty well, but with that latest fan café thing, idk. None of us can imagine what it'd be like feeling so wanted and having such high expectations from so many people, while never having experienced a 'normal' way of growing up, going out, meeting people, having relationships without the constant worry of being found out and literally seeing your ass published everywhere. I'd go (even more) crazy
rosiemotleymind 7th-Dec-2018 02:22 pm (UTC)
What did he do in the fan cafe?
jyusou 7th-Dec-2018 02:38 pm (UTC)
He went on a bit of a spamming spree earlier today, said he’s gonna run chat sessions from 11pm to 2am every Friday, posted some selfies. I was like bitch what are you doing it’s 3am SK time, I wasn’t even awake for it.
sciencebottle 7th-Dec-2018 03:06 pm (UTC)
I worry about him too. I can’t help but feel like he’ll crack one day.
mallmouse 7th-Dec-2018 04:26 pm (UTC)
Jimin is the one i was most worried about (and the Michael Jackson comparisons aint helping at all). Constant need for attention, signs of homophobia, loves alcohol maybe too much idk idk.

But now JK seems to become more and more popular (and he def. meets the Western "tall dark and handsome look the most) but he s had this so unusual way of growing up and now we get this "what about me what about me" reaction at like 3 am and right after fans changed their pfp to Jin s and Suga s Es Sheeran comment. He even asked fans to change their pfp and replace it with his own...
sciencebottle 7th-Dec-2018 06:41 pm (UTC)
I 100% agree with you about Jimin. He seems very very insecure about himself and seems to engage in destructive habits, its very worrying.

JK seemed to be so impervious to everything, I find it really hard to believe that he's that 100% all the time. I agree with you :(

Off topic, but its stuff like this that made it really hard for me to fully enjoy the Love Yourself series - because it really doesn't seem like they even fully love and care for themselves either. Their lives revolve around giving and giving and giving to ARMYs and at some point they will break.
mallmouse 7th-Dec-2018 10:07 pm (UTC)
yk, I too worried a lot about the LY series, how much they trully meant/felt it. I believe RM did, the way he spoke at the UN was like he was talking about himself, his insecurities about his looks and his dancing skills, hopefully the mistakes he'd made (see swastika and colorist comments) and it really did seem that he had come to terms with it.

But Jimin is another issue. He too seemed to be very insecure about his looks (weight, height, skin color, whatever) and now all this "I'm cutie, lovely, sexy" self-description is actually sad, considering how short-term that look can be. Also, there's also his love for probably excessive alcohol and, considering his homophobic comments, the difficulty he's def. going to have in fully accepting those (himself could be included) who are not straight.

JK's main insecurity seemed to be not considering himself clever enough, but now that he's transitioned from boy to man, and a very hot man indeed, all this truly extreme gain of popularity can't be easy to handle...
babyjenkski 7th-Dec-2018 08:01 pm (UTC)
Sometimes, I feel like I'm reading too much of what Jimin is doing. It may be because he worries me a lot. Now, Jungkook is somehow making me feel that way whenever he's doing something out of the usual. I can't think of any way of how to help them so I just always hope & pray for them (specially health-wise).
mallmouse 7th-Dec-2018 10:17 pm (UTC)
lbr, all those comments on his fancafe behavior being all flirty and stuff (some even said that's the reason he asked for the participants' ages, that he has a type) are probably right. Esp. for JK, it is possible he's never been in a stable romantic relationship, but can you imagine singing about it all day and having people around the word literally throwing themselves at you when all you do is practice and freak out that if you do get into a relationship and word gets out chaos will ensue? Let's hope that he has a support system strong enough to help him cope with all this madness

Edited at 2018-12-07 10:21 pm (UTC)
lydzi 8th-Dec-2018 03:35 pm (UTC)
Jungkook is starting to have the same problem as Jimin with alcohol tbh. I'm amazed no one is getting alarmed by this :/ I hope everything will be allright. He's a brilliant guy, he just needs more equilibrium in his life. I kinda lowkey hope he gets in a good relationship to sort a bit things out or something.To give him a confident boost of some kind. He needs it. It all comes to the feeling that he doesn't seem to think he is enough which is both ridiculous and relatable.
mallmouse 8th-Dec-2018 03:41 pm (UTC)
is really starting to get into alcohol? In Malta he seemed to despise the taste of that Irish bomb. And I think there's another video which showed him hating whiskey. Then again in the latest cafe chat he said he wanted to have a drink or something but then that mustn't talk about alcohol because there were young fans there.

And all this latest fan cafe action is indicative of exactly what you're saying: the guy craves interaction/relationship, don't forget he's been with the same people for years, and because he's the maknae he had the fewest real world relationship experiences. I too hope he won't start thinking he's not good enough, when he's so crazy talented (and gorgeous).

Edited at 2018-12-08 03:43 pm (UTC)
babyjenkski 7th-Dec-2018 08:03 pm (UTC)
SHINE really has that effect hahaha I know they did not invented the shoot-dance but every time I see someone doing it, I immediately associate SHINE with it.
revedesnuages 8th-Dec-2018 06:55 am (UTC)
I do agree with your concerns, but it really is hard to gauge how they’re doing behind the scenes because we’re only exposed to so much as fans and what we often see is a manufactured persona. Jimin isn’t the only one in bangtan to make homophobic comments, so in general, that’s a concern :/
mallmouse 8th-Dec-2018 07:08 am (UTC)
Others made homophobic comments as well?? Who?? I'm truly curious (not RM or Suga right? As if the colorist comments weren't bad enough)

The reason I mentioned JM isn't just because of his clear out 'Men don't kiss men' comment, but, like, he touches the rest of the members all the time, e.g. V had complained about it from the beginning, there's a video of him literally putting his hands on Jim's balls, and, idk, it's hard not to worry that there may be a serious conflict going on within himself. But of course you're right, we only know what they choose to show us. Like, maybe there's an even heavier drinker within them, who knows
revedesnuages 8th-Dec-2018 02:37 pm (UTC)
Yeah I just don't know about V and Jimin because there seems to be some cognitive dissonance going on. Jimin said men don't kiss, but he tries to kiss the members and ask them for kisses in a lot of videos? But that could just be fanservice. The context where he said it was in some tough guy skit with J-Hope, so it might not reflect his true opinions but it's still a homophobic comment.

In Bon Voyage Season 2, some of the members had to share beds. RM and V had to share a bed and RM was talking about how V has a habit of cuddling him when he was sleeping and said it was gross. I don't know if I'm reading too much into it because he could've just meant that he uncomfortable with being cuddled, but calling it gross is :/

There's a few times when they've made jokes about being gay:
-in a Bangtan Bomb, when Jimin was passing out fan letters, J-Hope tried to kiss him and Jimin said "He likes men a little too much"
-on a radio show, the radio host was talking about how much Jimin likes Jungkook, and V said "I think he kind of likes men"
-Jin was asked about his friendship about Kidoh from Topp Dogg at a fanmeeting and he wrote "I'm not gay, haha"

Most of the examples I listed happened years ago, they don't seem to have said anything recently and they're always so touchy feely with one another so it's possible that they've matured but it's hard to say for sure because the only members who have publicly said something supportive about the LGBT is RM and Suga.
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