4:05 pm - 12/20/2018

Grazy Grace talks Produce 48 (feat. Alex Christine) and plastic surgery





Produce 48 video summary:

  • Alex Christine was a contestant on the show who finished in 82nd place. She's mixed Korean/White & grew up in America. She's signed to ZB Label and is planning to debut either in a group or solo, late next year hopefully.

  • She was tempted to sit in chair #1 in the beginning but she was worried about what people would think (as she's a foreigner.) For the same reason she didn't try for the center position in her Peekaboo group.

  • She performed Peekaboo with a leg injury despite intense pain and doctors' recommendation to not dance for 2 months

  • Filming took place every day for very long hours. Contestants would often get up around 8 and go to bed around 2 or 3. First day of filming was about 24 hours long with one food break.

  • Contestants had between 1-2 days to learn all the lyrics (Korean & Japanese) & choreo for Nekkoya. The MV and solo cams were filmed over 3 days.

  • Everything was filmed, they were never practicing with the cameras off. Cameras would follow girls who cried.

  • Alex speaks conversational Korean & very little Japanese, but most Japanese trainees knew some English so she could speak with them in "Japanglish". Most Korean & Japanese trainees spoke to each other in English

  • Alex says PD48 success is not necessarily based on looks or talent, but on "who's the most interesting person to watch." She didn't notice any favoritism based on companies. Screentime was very unbalanced, but not for any specific reason; the trainees who got more screentime were from big & small companies.

  • All trainees she met seemed genuine and kind.

  • Some trainees were on strict diets from their companies. Alex had a friend who wasn't allowed to eat (PD48 staff were helping enforce her company's rules) so she brought her food every day.

  • Alex's company asked her to go to a diet clinic and there she was recommended to go from 43 kg (96 lbs) to 35 kg (77 lbs). Seems like she didn't do it.

  • If Alex had to take out one member to put herself in, it'd be Nako (because they're the same height)

  • She would "definitely!" join another survival show, and there is one next year that she's thinking of joining.

  • She's friends with Park Seoyoung & Choi Yena

  • Before becoming a trainee/artist, she planned to study forensic pathology & become a mortician

  • Grace doesn't know how to pronounce IZ*ONE, lol

Plastic surgery video summary:

  • Grace recently got lip fillers, which she chose and paid for. She always felt her thin lips made her look "mean/greedy"

  • When she first joined a company, after a few months they took her to a few different clinics to shop around. The co-president recommended she get a nose job, and she also wanted her jaw done

  • She got the nose job, but never got the jaw surgery and is now thankful for that

  • Few trainees would turn down plastic surgery offered by their company; almost all of them want to be "more beautiful" in hopes of getting the center position

  • No one is forced to get surgery or kicked out if they don't, and often the trainees/artists want it more than the company does. But Grace's company showed favoritism toward the "more beautiful" trainees, which made her want surgery

  • Companies vary; some are very pro-surgery and others are pro-natural. Hers was somewhere in the middle

  • At one point, all the trainees in her company went to a clinic together and were consulted one by one. Even the "most beautiful" trainees were recommended to get work done

  • There are plastic surgery clinics on every street and it's cheaper in Korea. There's little to no stigma about it and few regrets

  • Grace hasn't heard of anyone doing skin bleaching, but "brightening" creams/injections are popular. Older generations are more biased in favor of light skin

  • The most secretive procedure is the fat-reducing injection (in stomachs, thighs, etc)

  • Grace says Koreans don't get surgery to look White/Western

  • In the end, she says: don't judge or bash if you haven't been in their shoes and experienced the pressure, and be careful what you write on the Internet.



Source: YouTube: GRAZY GRACE
goshipgurl 20th-Dec-2018 10:55 pm (UTC)
she was recommended to go from 43 kg (96 lbs) to 35 kg (77 lbs).

THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
43kg is already super thin, but 35kg is just... elementary/middle school weight. depends how tall you are of course but i assume alex is around 1,60, which... jesus.


annayism 20th-Dec-2018 11:00 pm (UTC)
she's actually 150 cm (4ft9) so she is a shorty, but 96 lbs would be a healthy weight for her height so 77 is just way too tiny...
goshipgurl 20th-Dec-2018 11:15 pm (UTC)
even 42kg is slightly underweight for her height, but 35 is just wrong on so many levels. what are these companies thinking?
lizanka23 21st-Dec-2018 02:35 am (UTC)
seriously. and what is a diet clinic anyway? it seems like a clinic specialized in promoting disordered eating and body dysmorphia
annayism 20th-Dec-2018 11:02 pm (UTC)
alex looks pretty here. she didn't really stand out to me on produce but i'd be interested in her group when they debut. i cannot imagine being filmed literally 24 hours a day for 3 straight months....that's so exhausting

and what she said about trainees who weren't allowed to eat....???? how did they survive??
myrrhcat 20th-Dec-2018 11:14 pm (UTC)
I'm guessing they could have breakfast but not lunch/dinner... probably one of those starvation diets like the one where you have 1/2 cup of rice for breakfast and that's it :(
mortkero 21st-Dec-2018 01:27 am (UTC)
I don't even remember her from pd48!

That screen time bias was decidedly working against her
ramenhime 20th-Dec-2018 11:33 pm (UTC)
you can tell shes holding back when they ask her about screen time and favoritism but it also seems like she got along with all the girls and doesnt want to throw anyone under the bus
anyone know why stan twitter hates her so much?

Edited at 2018-12-20 11:33 pm (UTC)
tsubaki874 20th-Dec-2018 11:43 pm (UTC)
they think she came after Nako because she chose her as the IZ*ONE member she would want to replace (literally only a hypothetical question), but she only chose her because they're the same height so it wouldn't impact the group visually differently and goes on to address and tell Nako 'I love you'.. the reach is unreal honestly
miwa201 21st-Dec-2018 04:54 pm (UTC)
she was disliked before that
kyulkyung 21st-Dec-2018 12:48 am (UTC)
stan twitter hates her cause she used to be on stan twitter herself lol.. and they don't think she's attractive.
ramenhime 21st-Dec-2018 05:25 pm (UTC)
ah i thought she had done something problematic~ gotcha
miwa201 21st-Dec-2018 04:54 pm (UTC)
i think it's bc they find her cringeworthy
ramenhime 21st-Dec-2018 05:25 pm (UTC)
ah i thought she had done something problematic~ gotcha
she is a bit cringey idk what it is though lol
daynr 20th-Dec-2018 11:57 pm (UTC)
the pressure focused so much on looks must be so intense, especially since it is one of the things that a person has very little control over. I really believe anyone can significantly improve their singing or dancing with work, but changing your bones, etc., just can't be done.

Plastic surgery doesn't as change/control. I'm not judging it, but it's not a quality a person has control over through work or dedication.
mortkero 21st-Dec-2018 01:30 am (UTC)
She talks about how they don't get PS to look more Western, but then goes in to say that they get double eyelid to look less typically Asian...

Lookism is so real though... I probably would be tempted if it was cheap and easily accessible...
lizanka23 21st-Dec-2018 02:40 am (UTC)
idk when she said there was no one directly forcing her to get surgery but people with surgery still got better treatment still seems like a form of pressure to get surgery. it may be indirect but if it's affecting your job opportunities it's serious. also i don't get korean recording hours. it takes them so long to record a show that would take other countries like japan just a few hours. that really needs to change.
petecarl 21st-Dec-2018 06:07 am (UTC)
She was in LABOUM's agency, wasn't she?

It's interesting that she says it's mostly the older generation who's biased towards lighter skin when rice noticed the trend for lighter foundation had really increased the past ten years. If you go look at early videos of SNSD or Wonder Girls, their skin doesn't appear nearly as light as it does now. And almost all the varieties and dramas use filters and lights to make celebrities look whiter.

She might feel like no one was "forced" to have plastic surgery, but with the power dynamic between a company and trainees, if the company says to get plastic surgery, most of them are gonna feel like they have to whether they want it or not. Also, it's obvious companies do force artists to get work done, because a lot of groups got whole new faces before debuting in Japan, like SM is known for wanting to present new faces before comebacks or dramas, and if they don't, they turn down opportunities for those artists.

It's sad to hear how common starvation diets are over there and how they're forced on trainees and artists.

Variety show schedules are no joke. They film for so long, I wonder if they really need to film for that long? It's sad and frustrating to hear about breaks and meals being skipped by production to get the filming in. I know a lot of Koreans believe celebs need to suck it up and not complain because they also work long hours, but I wish people would see it as an indication of the lack of worker's rights in their country and use it as a subject to gather around and raise attention to their own plight instead of just saying "well, if you think that's base, I've got it worse!"
lizanka23 21st-Dec-2018 04:53 pm (UTC)
they are organizing marches and protests for workers rights in korea though. at least i heard they were planning on it but i don't know what happened exactly. also they don't need to film that long. k-pop idols have talked about going to japan and their recording time for shows being way shorter in japan, only a few hours. maybe in korea they're just perfectionists and want to get the perfect camera angles or something. idk...
myrrhcat 21st-Dec-2018 05:40 pm (UTC)
i think pd48 is a special case cuz they have to film solo cams for 90+ contestants, they have to learn various songs and choreo in a very short period of time so that's many hours of practice, and all that has to be filmed in case something interesting happens... I'm pretty sure most shows don't film as long
lizanka23 21st-Dec-2018 06:03 pm (UTC)
that's true that for produce48 it would be different since it's a reality competition show but in korea even simple talks show or variety shows take a super long time to film but in japan they don't, so there is probably more they could do to have more breaks, etc.
petecarl 22nd-Dec-2018 01:36 am (UTC)
Thank you for you reply! I didn't mean to imply that there are no activists in Korea. Obviously we've seen otherwise with the Me Too movement and the protests against the former president, and of course I've seen a lot of comments about Hell Korea and youth talking about how why're struggling and how they find it such a stressful, competitive society. I guess I just meant it more in a way that I wish more of the general population would start demanding change instead of venting at someone who is also suffering.

Yeah, I know American celebs when they promote in Korea will often only drop in for an hour max to shoot for a Korean variety. I get PD48 is a special case, and I'm used to American reality shows filming 24/7, but like you said, even regular talk shows seem to film forever.
lizanka23 25th-Dec-2018 02:59 am (UTC)
no, you're good. i just get tired of sometimes people thinking that these netizens' opinions represent all of korea. i've seen it too often, so i interpreted it in that way by mistake.sorry about that
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