6:35 pm - 03/13/2019

News On Seungri And JJY's Chatroom Having Possible Ties With Police and more

On March 13, lawyer Bang Jung Hyun appeared on CBS Radio’s “Kim Hyun Jung’s News Show” and revealed new information about the recent controversies surrounding Seungri and Jung Joon Young.

Lawyer Bang Jung Hyun is the person who sent the KakaoTalk conversation data to the Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commission on behalf of an original whistleblower who chose to remain anonymous.

He explained that he had received an email from the original whistleblower stating that they had gotten hold of data related to the people involved in the Burning Sun incident. They wanted to make the information public in order to seek justice, but they did not know how to and needed help.

He said it was his job to protect the identity of the original whistleblower and worried that if he sent the data to an investigative agency (such as the police), they may focus on finding out the identity of the whistleblower. That is why he decided to send it to the Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commission instead.

Asked how lengthy the KakaoTalk conversation was, the lawyer replied that it amounted to tens of thousands of messages that were shared across eight months between 2015 and 2016.

He added that Jung Joon Young’s messages of hidden cameras were shared in several different chatrooms including the chatroom with Seungri where sexual escort services seemed to be discussed, one-on-one chatrooms, and other group chatrooms.

The lawyer revealed another reason for sending the data to the Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commission instead of the police. After going through the data, he found several conversations suggesting ties with the police. Though he was vague so as to not reveal all of the information, he explained that the conversations contained several messages about certain high ranks. For example, when a situation comes up, someone would say, “I contacted [the high-ranking official]” or “I did [so-and-so] with [the high-ranking official] and resolved it.” There were business-related situations as well as other non-commercial situations. Someone also said, “So-and-so from the police called me to say happy birthday.”

“The person in the conversation appeared to be tied with the most influential head of the police, and that led to other ties with other police officers of lower ranks.” At the interviewer’s probing, the lawyer revealed that it seemed to be someone as high-ranking as the Commissioner General of the Korean National Police Agency, but he clarified that he was unsure of how close the relationship between those in the conversation and the police was.

The radio DJ asked, “Is it just one person who’s saying they resolved issues by talking to the police, or is it everyone?” and Bang Jung Hyun responded, “One person is saying they are the most closely tied, but the other people are also aware of this. [That one person] is related to Burning Sun.”

The interviewer then questioned whether there had been other unrevealed crimes committed in the chatrooms. The lawyer shared that there was, and that he had already reported to the Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commission about it. He further explained, “As you may know, there are many cases that are being investigated in relation to Burning Sun. There’s another case that’s similar to one of those cases.”

The radio DJ asked if it was related to a club, but the lawyer did not clearly state whether it is a club or not. He said, “It is, however, related to one of those businesses [run by Seungri].” The DJ asked, “Another crime. Like illegal drugs or tax evasion? Or something else?” and the lawyer responded that it was a crime of a similar nature.

[Partial Interview (very worth the read)]

After that, the current Commissioner General of the Korean National Police Agency, Min Gap Ryong held a press conference in response:

Min Gap Ryong shared that a certain individual in the chatroom mentioned a “police chief,” saying he “has my back.” However, there appears to be a possibility of the phrase used for “police chief” to be a typo and actually refer to the “Commissioner General of the police” or the “Public Prosecutor General,” as all three phrases are very similar in Korean and the latter two figures are of higher rank. The Commissioner General at the time that the messages were exchanged in July 2016 was not Min Gap Ryong but Kang Shin Myung, who previously held the position.

“I will check thoroughly to find out if there was an incident that the police was involved in at the time,” and added, “There is a specific individual who made this comment, but it is difficult to reveal details as the investigation is on-going. [...] If crimes are discovered in the process, they will be convicted thoroughly regardless of rank."

He also shared that a specialized team made up of the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency’s Provincial Special Detective Division, which is investigating the Burning Sun case, along with other top investigative teams including the Intellectual Crime Division, Cyber Security Division, and Narcotics Unit, will dive into this issue of potential corruption.

After this press conference, the former Commissioner General Kang Shin Myung (who held the position till August 2016) also went public, denying the allegations tying him to the the chatroom including Seungri and Joonyoung.

“With all of my honor at stake, I am stating that I have no relation to the matter. I only became aware of the case [involving Jung Joon Young and Seungri] today, and I know nothing about it.”

“I learned about Seungri for the first time through this incident, and I have no relation to him whatsoever. It is not worth responding to each and every [accusation].”

Kang Shin Myung also addressed the allegations of FTISLAND’s Choi Jong Hoon asking personal favors to the police to cover up his drunk driving incident from three years ago.

“The fact that a Commissioner General of the Korean National Police Agency can cover up a drunk driving incident is just against common sense.”

SBS funE - having the receipts - publish more messages suggesting ties between the police and members of Seungri's Chatroom

In July 2016, Seungri opened a club named Monkey Museum in the Gangnam district of Seoul. However, the police were dispatched to the club on the day of its opening, and Seungri was investigated for having illegal structures in the building.

The conversation talked about the new club and went as follows:

Mr. Kim: I think we’ll hit the jackpot if we just solve the problem with the air conditioner [in the club].

Seungri: Yeah, you’re right.

Mr. Kim: I saw that [CEO Yoo] texted with the “police chief” yesterday.

Mr. Kim: I think the problem with the person telling on us will be solved as well.

Seungri: What did he say?

Mr. Kim: It was really long. Yesterday, another business took a photo of the inside of [Monkey Museum] and reported it.

Mr. Kim: The chief said something suggesting that the other business had told on us because they were jealous and that we didn’t have to worry because he would take care of all of it.

Mr. Kim is the same person that allegedly sent the prostitutes to the hotel rooms when they arranged sexual escort services for business investors. He was also accused of sharing illegal hidden cameras in the chatroom with Jung Joon Young.

SBS funE states that it is hard to fully believe Mr. Kim’s messages because he spelled “Commissioner General of the police” as another word in Korean that means “police chief.” It is also unclear whether he is referring to the Commissioner General of the police at that time or the Commissioner of the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency. Further investigation will reveal whether Mr. Kim had falsely reported to Seungri or if they had real connections with high-ranking police officials.

SBS funE contacted Mr. Kim and attempted to receive a response, but he did not say anything.

They succeeded in interviewing CEO Yoo, who said,
“It’s true that I was at Monkey Museum’s opening ceremony. But I don’t know any sources from the police. I don’t know the Commissioner General or the Commissioner of the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency, and I’ve never met them or been in the same place with them.”

Seungri stated through his lawyer,
“Monkey Museum received criminal punishment and a fine for violating the Food Sanitation Act before. It is not true that he tried to cover up police investigations.

SBS funE shared more KKT convos in reaction to CJH's denial to covering his DUI up by having ties to the police (which technically i guess, is true, since someone else did it for him. Why is this so familiar? Oh right, FNC's first statement was the same way, concealing the truth within semantics and incomplete phrasing.)

The messages were sent after Choi Jong Hoon’s drunk driving incident in February 2016. He received a fine of 2.5 million won (approximately $2,200) and had his license suspended for 100 days. A statement from FNC Entertainment earlier on March 13 confirmed that he kept the incident quiet and did not tell his agency.

After it was reported that Choi Jong Hoon had asked the police to cover up the incident so it wouldn’t be reported in the media, FNC stated that Choi Jong Hoon did not make any requests to the media or police.

On SBS’s “8 O’Clock News,” text messages were shared that show a discussion in the group chatroom about a payment being made to cover up the incident.

According to a recreation of the KakaoTalk messages in the report by SBS, Choi Jong Hoon shared an article on March 7, 2016 about how an idol had been revealed to have been caught drunk driving. “Thankfully, I survived because of the favor from [name redacted] hyung,” he said.

Mr. Kim replied, “Jong Hoon had a good experience. You were handcuffed, ran away in front of the police, and must have felt a thrill.”

Jung Joon Young said, “Jong Hoon could have made it on to the first page [of the paper] this time,” and Mr. Heo said he could have been the topic of a featured article. Mr. Park added, “He could have become famous.”

Choi Jong Hoon replied, “Why would there be an article about me? It was so quietly taken care of.”

Mr. Kim said, “Quietly? Do you know how far Mr. Yoo went for you?” Mr. Yoo may be CEO Yoo of Yuri Holdings.

An included message from Seungri (separated by a line from the other messages) also said, “Don’t think that it’ll be covered up the next time you drink and drive. [Name redacted] hyung used his own money to keep them from telling.”

SBS Reports Instance Of Police Corruption In Jung Joon Young’s Previous Hidden Camera Case

SBS’s 8 O’Clock News has uncovered more details regarding corruption within the police station that investigated Jung Joon Young’s illegal filming charges in 2016.

On the March 13 broadcast of the program, SBS reported that the police officer in charge of Jung Joon Young’s case in 2016 requested that a digital forensics company get rid of Jung Joon Young’s cell phone, the key evidence of the case.

According to the report, the police officer from Seongdong Police Station requested the digital forensics company to write a confirmation letter claiming that the data from the cell phone was unable to be restored.

On August 22, 2016, the police officer called the forensics company and asked,
“Since we’re working on the case, there’s something that’s a bit complicated. Jung Joon Young told us that he left the data here. Doesn’t it take some time? He admitted it himself anyways, and we don’t have much time, so I wanted to ask, since the device is old and worn-out, if you could write us a confirmation letter stating that the data was unable to be restored for the data confirmation results.”

In response to the police officer, the forensics company replied,
“The work we do is like that, so there should be some type of procedural action. I also have to state why [the data cannot be restored], so I don’t know about [this request].”

Upon being rejected, the police concluded the investigation before receiving the data.

When SBS met with the police officer in question, he stated,
“This is the first time I’m hearing the words ‘data unable to be restored.’ It’s unheard of for the investigator in charge [of a case] to ask a private company for something like that. [The investigation] is still in progress.”

SBS then brought out proof of his involvement in the situation as they played the recorded tape over for him. The police officer commented, “It’s true that that’s me making the call, but it wasn’t a situation for me to say something to that extent.” He also stated that he did not remember the situation, and that during the time, they were not given the cell phone. He then asked, “Am I in a quite awkward position right now?”

How the KKT conversation data got revealed:
Original whistleblower (anonymous) -> Lawyer Bang Jung Hyun, SBS funE reporter Kang Kyung Yoon -> Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commision -> Supreme Prosecutors' Office (and nothing for the police)

The KKT data transfer to the Supreme Prosecutors' Office happened on March 12th.

- Lawyer BJH reveals suspicion that there are ties to the police, up to high ranks like the Commissioner General of the Korean National Police Agency (the phrase used is "police chief", it's not clear which position is meant)
- Current Commissioner General says that he was not CG in 2016 and acknowledges possibility that there might have been a power abuse by high-ranked police officers.
- Former CG also denies being related to the case.

SBS funE publishes various convos that allude to the chatrooms having connections to officials:
1. The KKT convo connected to business -> In the chatroom, Employee Kim says he has connections to high-ranking police officials.
2. The KKT convo from Choi Jong Hoon's drunk driving incident, showing a convo of covering up the incident by paying money.

SBS talk to the police officer accused of covering for JJY during his 2016 Hidden Camera Case, which he denied first, until they played him the audio of him saying it. To which he then answered “Am I in a quite awkward position right now?”

source: soompi 1 2 3 4 5 6, nate, naver 1 2 3 4 5 6 7, news mk, CBS김현정의 뉴스쇼
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juhli 13th-Mar-2019 05:47 pm (UTC)

tungatunga 13th-Mar-2019 06:00 pm (UTC)
So very true, people are in denial how much influence and power popular celebs can wield, especially guys in patriarchal society, and having such a small, and interwind market.
tungatunga 13th-Mar-2019 05:58 pm (UTC)
Yup, Seungri finally living through his own version of The Great Gatsby, his dreams came true.

Edited at 2019-03-13 06:00 pm (UTC)
juhli 13th-Mar-2019 06:17 pm (UTC)

Everyone should read the interview with the lawyer who was originally contacted by the whistleblower. It's a chilling read.
xoxkenzxox 13th-Mar-2019 06:44 pm (UTC)
oh my. what a read.
dantethetaco 13th-Mar-2019 06:22 pm (UTC)
Seungri stated through his lawyer,
“Monkey Museum received criminal punishment and a fine for violating the Food Sanitation Act before. It is not true that he tried to cover up police investigations.”

So, were you all just roleplaying in the chatroom? Or are you still going to say that the chats are fake??? The way all the people involved are lying even when there's clear evidence of what they did... The policeman saying he would never do something like that, and then the recording proving he is lying. Seungri and the people on the chat saying they didn't bribe anyone, but the chats showing otherwise. Just wait for that Comissioner General saying “The fact that a Commissioner General of the Korean National Police Agency can cover up a drunk driving incident is just against common sense.” to be exposed by some email, texts, another policeman or a recording to have ordered the cover up of the incident. They have no shame.
daynr 13th-Mar-2019 06:36 pm (UTC)
We're going to need a flow chart the size of Sunny's windows -- bigger than the cell all these things will hopefully soon be inhabiting.

So much to unpack in these reports.
premonitioner 13th-Mar-2019 11:04 pm (UTC)
I don't think her windows are big enough....
babyjenkski 13th-Mar-2019 06:44 pm (UTC)
Thanks OP for this.

Edited at 2019-03-13 08:37 pm (UTC)
lil_poisonfrog 13th-Mar-2019 09:00 pm (UTC)
jyusou 13th-Mar-2019 07:09 pm (UTC)
This reads like a crime novel. The way the lawyer was questioned and pressured to reveal the informant scared the shit out of me. Snakes at every turn! I hope the informant and the lawyer stay as secure as possible. The lawyer was super brave in standing up to all these parties with seemingly ulterior motives.

It’s unbelievable how the shoes keep dropping in this investigation, as well as how fast they’re dropping too.
juhli 13th-Mar-2019 07:15 pm (UTC)
Also, Seungri and Joonyoung, who are each charged with different violations, will be questioned Thursday: Seungri about allegations that he brokered prostitution and Jung about allegations that he secretly filmed and distributed sex videos.

It's horrific how much is being revealed, and that's only from 8 months of KKT convos in 2015/2016. If I imagine what they've been doing in the rest of their time till now, getting more and more shameless because they aren't getting caught and even then, there are no consequences for them....

Edited at 2019-03-13 07:17 pm (UTC)
apori 13th-Mar-2019 07:30 pm (UTC)
I'm sure you're right, there's no way this just started up at this level in 2015. So many women's lives violated......
kcaomei 13th-Mar-2019 07:31 pm (UTC)
wow what a read. this whole thing is so wild, every time another layer is peeled back and more info is revealed, it gets even scarier. i mean... korean style mafia; this really isn't just some asshole rich guys abusing their power. i knew this was some deep-seeded shit but yikes this is like a movie. i really hope everyone involved on the good side is protected (informant(s), lawyer, reporter, etc). i can't imagine the level of fear and anxiety all these heroic people must be experiencing.

also thanks so much OP!
sglitzys 13th-Mar-2019 10:02 pm (UTC)
MTE. We need a chart of how Seungri met and who are in his circle of friends. Have any political figures or socialites been names yet?
modestgoddess79 13th-Mar-2019 08:07 pm (UTC)
I'm scared for the safety of the lawyer, reporter and the informant, with police higher ups involved they will do anything to cover their crimes
benihime99 13th-Mar-2019 08:19 pm (UTC)
That shit is getting bigger with every news coming out and I hoestly hope every person involved will eb charged
I want them to take down those trash male idols but not to use them as scapegoat, BRING THEM ALL DOWN: idols, politicians, cops, all of them
modestgoddess79 13th-Mar-2019 11:25 pm (UTC)
I hope it’s like that Oprah episode where she gave everyone cars but everyone gets jail:
You go to jail!
And you go to jail!
Everyone goes to jail!
evilcoc0nut 13th-Mar-2019 08:38 pm (UTC)

I can't keep track of everyone who is being fingered, so Idk if he has yet, but I thought this was interesting. Especially the part about "it will be in the news sometime".
blck_ink 13th-Mar-2019 09:35 pm (UTC)
i still can't believe thi is all happening. it really feels like i'm watching a movie or drama unfold. let's just hope that the lawyer, journalist and informant stay safe!
rainstormraider 13th-Mar-2019 09:43 pm (UTC)
Every time they lie, SBS publishes more evidence to prove that none of the accused have any credibility at all. Maybe these dumbfucks should not be issuing inaccurate statements for the sake of their shattered credibility? It's an idea?
rainstormraider 13th-Mar-2019 09:46 pm (UTC)
Also why the fuck haven't their entire KKT histories been subpoenaed already? This is just the 8 months of criminal activity. They could find a whole just of indictable offences if they broadened the net.
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