9:08 pm - 04/27/2019

BLACKPINK draw criticism for alleged cultural appropriation

BLACKPINK have come under fire recently for alleged cultural appropriation. In the newest episode of their "Blackpink Diaries" series, Jennie and Rose can be seen dancing and laughing at the set of the "Kill This Love" music video. Many fans have expressed their disappointment as they believe Jennie is making fun of the Indian dance "Bharatnatyam".

Watch the scene in question in the video below at 10:00.













sources: BLACKPINK yt, @pastellalisa, @listenbts, @kwoniverse, @archivesrosie, @ORPHICJOON
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benihime99 27th-Apr-2019 08:14 pm (UTC)
I find the use of "alleged" in the title quite hilarious tbh. Had this been done by a non YG girlgroup people would go harder on them. But more often than not, we're so used to YG group doing this shit it's almost a non-issue. "Oh it's YG, cultural appropriation is to be expected".

Here's the thing
I do think there's a lot of instances in which the girls have no control or choices over it (they're, imo, not established enough to say no and YG is probably the shittiest and one of the most misogynistic label around)
So unless someone purposely chose to do something I usually blame the label, choreographer, makeup artist who came up with the idea, management... Which doesn't mean the girls shouldn't be called out, just, let's acknowledge it's a collective fuck up.
Basically unless it's an instance like that one T-ara girl personally requesting to be called "Curry Unnie" I think the blame should mostly be put on the higher.

BUT if people come out with the "they have no control" excuse, said excuse needs to be applied to everyone and not just your fave.

This is by no mean BP first time being in hot water for such an issue, it's been recurring since their debut, and yet...

Edited at 2019-04-27 08:46 pm (UTC)
sciencebottle 28th-Apr-2019 01:51 am (UTC)
I agree. I think she is really ignorant on what copying that dance means to those are from South Asia and have trained in that specific dance style. While I think her intentions were harmless (I don't think she meant anything negative necessarily), its still something she did do intentionally (the 'indian' style) and she should be held responsible and educated.
belintuchiha 27th-Apr-2019 08:41 pm (UTC)

No one is surprised.

torontok 27th-Apr-2019 08:48 pm (UTC)
Cultural appropriation isn't the term here, more like yet another kpop group mocking traditional indian dances
u_know 27th-Apr-2019 10:24 pm (UTC)
yup
modestgoddess79 27th-Apr-2019 09:36 pm (UTC)
Is it wrong to feel like I dodged a bullet because it wasn’t African Americans this time?

Indian fans, I believe you and I empathize. It’s the reaction of the racist fans that hurts the most.
rockerista03 28th-Apr-2019 12:19 am (UTC)
And it’s the usual “be thankful they did it because they exposed your culture to the world” BS. Like not even just BP fans but the K-Pop fandom in general.
scionofawhisper 27th-Apr-2019 09:43 pm (UTC)
no wai
u_know 27th-Apr-2019 10:27 pm (UTC)
How disappointing.

edit: OP do you mind if I cross post this to ONTD? If you were going to do it, I'll leave it to you!

Edited at 2019-04-28 12:34 am (UTC)
goshipgurl 28th-Apr-2019 04:23 pm (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply, just saw that you already posted it. No problem 😊
921227 27th-Apr-2019 10:52 pm (UTC)
I hope more and more Indian/Hindu call her out on it -- and the member behind her too. Stupid
dior_chic 27th-Apr-2019 11:35 pm (UTC)
Mfte
vintage_boom 28th-Apr-2019 12:11 am (UTC)
There's been like 3 comebacks at this point where Jennie's been wearing some type of appropriation jewelry related to Indian cultures.

maybe YGE's styling team has bequeathed each of them a culture to vulture from like fucked up sailor scouts. Jennie with Indian culture, Lisa with Black culture...Rose is on some Avril Lavigne cosplay nonesense lately maybe they gave her white culture.

Edited at 2019-04-28 12:14 am (UTC)
belintuchiha 28th-Apr-2019 01:03 am (UTC)

I’m dying at your last bit omg

rockerista03 28th-Apr-2019 12:25 am (UTC)
I’m seconding everyone in this thread and hope more people call them out for it. This just ain’t it.
sciencebottle 28th-Apr-2019 12:49 am (UTC)
Hmm. As a south Asian fan (who did train in Bharatnatyam while growing up), I’m not sure how I feel. Maybe it’s been ingrained in me to brush it off when people make fun of South asian culture (since South Asians tend to be the butt of so many jokes). I won’t dismiss others being angry, but I’m going be honest in that I don’t know if i’m offended with the short clip that I saw.

I won’t call her a moron like the tweet, but I hope that fans let her know. Looks like they do read social media, so I hope (hope...)that if enough people tell her, then she’ll learn. The best way to educate those who are ignorant to other cultures is through dialogue.

Edited at 2019-04-28 01:48 am (UTC)
radowan 28th-Apr-2019 05:27 am (UTC)
I feel it's normal to feel conflicted, but I think you bring up a really relevant point when you say that maybe it's been ingrained in you to brush it off when people make fun of South Asian culture. I've forgiven a lot in the past because of the pressure to not be an angry cliche and let a lot of shitty jokes slide, and it's only now that I can't get over *how* shitty and unnecessary and demeaning many of those jokes and throwaway comments were.

TBH I don't think BP will be held accountable, or acknowledge the guilt. I don't think YG would let them, even if they wanted to.

Edited at 2019-04-28 05:29 am (UTC)
vikihpnerd 28th-Apr-2019 02:43 am (UTC)
Honestly speaking, I've done this kind of moves when I was a kid over 20 years ago. I didn't know it was offensive until I read this article today. Please excuse my ignorance. We were not taught at school about this in America.
radowan 28th-Apr-2019 05:34 am (UTC)
1. American education is shit. We know. With the exception of a few universities, it's incredibly lousy. So I'm not surprised you guys weren't taught about this at school in America.
2. "over 20 years ago" information was harder to come by.
3. Jennie's been living in Asia, and presumably interacted with people from Asian countries aside from South Korea for a minute. The industry she's been in for years now has been constantly dealing with backlash from different cultural appropriation and racism scandals. (EDIT: so to make this statement more explicit, I mean that the information that was hard to come by regarding cultural appropriation 20 years ago in the American schools, might just be a bit more wide-spread and accessible to Kpop idols these days.)
4. Your inability to infer the implication of disrespect and mockery from imitating another person's culture sounds like one hell of a person problem to me.

Verdict: ignorance not excused.

Edited at 2019-04-28 05:54 am (UTC)
rainstormraider 28th-Apr-2019 04:10 am (UTC)
Do YGE stylists sit around looking up countries they can steal from when they run out of black cultural lodestones or something?

I would be offended if I wasn’t tired of YGE and Black Pink’s stans who will gaslight anyone who points this out.

The originators of the cultural appropriation trend in K-Pop created idols who behave in a culturally insensitive manner? Shocking.
dior_chic 28th-Apr-2019 09:18 am (UTC)
They just love giving me reasons not to support them.
glokmusic 28th-Apr-2019 12:01 pm (UTC)

ughhhhhhhh she's not the first but no one ever called them out so plzzzz call her out

as an indian who trained in bharatnatyam for many years this is.... so disrespectful to my art and i'm SO FUCKING TIRED

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