7:59 pm - 05/03/2019

He is Psychometric Ep 15-16 Discussion Post [fin]

SynopsisA boy who is able to read the secrets of those whose skin comes into contact with him, and a girl who does everything she can to hide her pain. In the drama, the boy and girl will meet and try to fix, heal, grow, and love from the small and big occurrences that happen in their lives.

Cast: Park Jin Young, Shin Ye-Eun, Kim Kwon, Kim Da-Som,
Noh Jong-Hyun, Ko Yoon-Jung, Kim Hyo-Jin, Park Chul-Min, Sa Kang,
Jang Eui-Su, Eom Hyo-Seop, Jung Suk-Yong, Lee Jong-Hyuk

Director:  Kim Byung-Soo
Writer: Yang Jin-A
Network: tvN
Episodes: 16
Release Date: March 11 - April 30, 2019
Runtime: Mondays & Tuesdays 21:30

WATCH HERE: ondramanice | Viki


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Wrap-up party

Jinyoung looks drunk lol

Sources: Asianwiki / ondramanice / Viki / doobseedoda / pics from various naver articles / soompi 1 2 3 / haetbitmark 1 2 3 4 / JJTheNoonas / gif

If you see/remember something else interesting regarding this that I haven't posted, feel free to post it in the comments!

omona, how do you think about the last episodes? And how do you think about the drama as a whole?

Previously: Ep1-2Ep3-4Ep5-6Ep7-8Ep9-10EP11-12EP13-14│EP15-16
camouflagecat 3rd-May-2019 07:46 pm (UTC)
At first I was too lazy to make notes, but then I ended up writing down some things anyways:

not enough attention to detail/weird writing:
- overcomplicating this for the sake of drama, like how it took them so damn long to decipher Ahn's aerial vision read of Sungmo's location

- so that dude who gave the jacket story just straight up gave a terribly weak testimony (just a bloody jacket, nothing else) which wasn't investigated at all

- googling alexithymia it literally says on wikipedia that it's not classified as a mental disease and the drama completely misportrayed the disorder for the sake of drama again

- the painting that hid the document was so obviously out of place among the other art

- this is random but the flashback to scene in the snowfall where Ahn is at the orphanage - so Sungmo was there?? We had a whole discussion in that ep's post about how we didn't see him there, whut?? And how is that a "good memory" of Ahn??

- why did Sungmo kill the people if his father had already planned to do it?

- why play all this cat and mouse if you planned to be caught in the end

- was Sungmo's mom the one who gave Geun Taek his name? she looks so much younger than him and it's creeping me out

- I still don't understand why Jaein's dad was so complacent in all of this

- Daebong and his storyline was completely pointless I'm sorry

The weird redemption arc and barely-there repercussions the villainous characters went thru:
- I feel like Jisoo's death didn't serve any purpose but give Sungmo his sad moment and serve as a boost for his redemption arc which makes me even more infuriated they killed her off

- I thought Jaein's "punishment of time" speech would've been her going in hard on Sungmo and his mom for the collateral suffering they caused her family, instead of, you know, siding with them and empathizing with them... She's allowed to be angry and she should be.

- Sungmo saying he had "a conscience" towards Ahn and Jaein like he hadn't put both of them thru hell already

- only 13 years in prison after all of that?? fuck that

Other random thoughts:
- Ahn getting serious health repercussion doing readings made me think exactly like Jaein, that he can't do any hard crime cases (also I know this isn't the right time but... I've never seen anyone's cheeks inflate like that when they're getting cpr lol)

- maybe I'm (definitely) overreacting but even they way they portrayed homeless people as these extremely dirty, smelly, drunk people kinda made me go hummm

Overall, I feel like the drama had a strong start as in it caught my interest and made me curious over how things would progress. It was at it's best around the middle when it revolved around Ahn's and Jaein's budding relationship and their confessions. All the police work was the weakest thing in the whole drama. Towards the end both of Jinyoung's and Shin Yee Eun's acting got a little weak. Jinyoung doesn't have enough credibility to portray dark scenes with high intensity, but other than that he was absolutely perfect for the role of Ahn, it's amazing how his first lead role was such a good fit for him. Overall, I was happy to see Jinyoung in a variety of emotions and scenes, which showed the many sides of his abilities (some good, some less good), even if perhaps the different genres in the drama didn't mash together as well as the drama writers maybe thought they did.
There was a lot of weak points in the story I feel like, a lot of exaggeration, straight up ignoring logic or other questionable choices (like as much as I love seeing Jinyoung's sixpack, that served no purpose or made remotely sense in context, and I feel like after all the hard work he put into getting that body, THAT'S all you're gonna use it for? lolll I feel cheated on Jinyoung's behalf) that reminds me I'd be interested in hearing him talk about his wokr out regime/diet in that regard

Tbh they almost completely lost me at the end because I wasn't interested or wanted to give Sungmo the time of day. Idk was he supposed to be likable at some point of the drama but he always seemed shady at best, and all of my dislike towards him was totally justified in the end lol.
daynr 3rd-May-2019 08:22 pm (UTC)
I agree with much of this, except I think the 13 years was reasonable. The state had utterly failed to protect him or his mother, and he was a powerless child. The failure of the state is further demonstrated by the utter ineptitude in which the investigation was handled, sending the security guard to jail to cover up shoddy construction/fire safety (which contributed to the extent of the tragedy.) There are extenuating circumstances that don't justify the killing, at all, but do add context to show it was not motivated by animus. And, honestly, repenting and confession does affect punishment.

While I don't support capital punishment, the father being sentenced to death in the show's world was fitting.
myungung 4th-May-2019 10:56 am (UTC)
I'm here wondering if they changed the storyline towards the end/they weren't finished with it when filming started, because of the concurrent filming. and the fact that they lost steam at the end is sad though, it was so promising!
camouflagecat 3rd-May-2019 07:47 pm (UTC)

I think it's generally known (or should be) that bodies like that are almost impossible to keep in the long run, not even big Hollywood action stars can keep their perfect bodies up forever, it's just not sustainable (or if it is, it's a very limited life lol).

But Jinyoung should've done a shirtless photoshoot while he was jacked up. The world was robbed.
daynr 3rd-May-2019 08:10 pm (UTC)
The writing choices in this show are inane. Some of the direction too, like why are they always shown walking at the slowest possible pace? The writer was both far too ambitious and also had no idea how to fill/pace the show. So annoying.

As an example of pacing/writing: watching Lee ahn and Jae In try to find a building in episode 15 was an exercise in stupidity and frustration. Like, it took him how long to realize it was from high up? And while some of the threads in the show weren't precisely dropped, they were poorly and casually explained/handled. The show should have been either light or serious, or it should have had a much tighter writing/directing staff.

I do appreciate that the kept Lee Ahn & hyung's relationship complicated in the end. It is a complicated thing, I don't believe there is an easy answer to how Lee Ahn should feel, and to how the character was portrayed.

OP is right, in that one pic Jinyoung looks tipsy, but also like his lippie is still perfect. How does that work? Especially in a matte shade.

My final thoughts: Jinyoung owes me for the 16 hours I spent. He better bring some extraness to his comeback dancing.
camouflagecat 4th-May-2019 12:50 am (UTC)
I think that's just his natural lip color (maybe a light tint at most), can you imagine? Some people are just blessed like that 😩
hpn88 3rd-May-2019 09:33 pm (UTC)
shows writing definitely lost steam at the end. the writer was really ambitious at the start but like most k-drama writers cannot write an ending.

at least my baby looked amazing the whole time and did a great job. i hope he picks another project soon like this winter post-world tour
hallyujah 3rd-May-2019 10:30 pm (UTC)
idt he looked amazing in the first couple eps as a student but that two-year flash forward was THE BEST thing that show did because the Glow Up was realllll.
camouflagecat 4th-May-2019 12:48 am (UTC)
Yeah ia he was okay looking in the beginning when I didn't know better but after the time skip - I was SHOOK
hallyujah 3rd-May-2019 10:23 pm (UTC)
I'm like half way through Ep 13 and honestly reading this makes me just want to stop there lol.

In my head, Eun Soo isn't dead, ya maybe Sung Mo killed all those people and set fire back then but Imma pretend the main 3 found out and helped pin it on Seung Mo's dad and Jae In's dad got out and Eun Soo through this experience learned that she should aim for higher than Seung Mo. Oh and Eun Soo's dad loses his job and faces corruption charges.

Idk something along those lines. Maybe Seung Mo's mom dies too, idc about her.
camouflagecat 4th-May-2019 06:01 am (UTC)
Oop, sorry for spoilers? But honestly I wasn't as excited for the last two episodes as I'd been for the other ones, which is a bit of a shame, but I could also kinda tell it was gonna be a stretch to assume they'd give a satisfactory ending to this based on certain writing choices they'd made...

Shoulda just given us more Ahn x Jaen, the only consistedly good thing about this drama.
hallyujah 4th-May-2019 08:06 am (UTC)
oh no worries, it's a discussion post. I came in expecting the episodes to be discussed and spoilery. Sometimes I like reading spoilers first to decide if I still wanna watch it and... I think I'm gonna pass on the last few eps tbh lol
camouflagecat 4th-May-2019 08:34 am (UTC)
Maybe someone's made an Ahn x Jaen compilation video on yt that you can watch and skip everything else
camouflagecat 4th-May-2019 05:45 am (UTC)

I came across this and twitter and... I'm surprised? He didn't seem the type to read/seek out comments. Also reading mean ones just seems to do more harm than good. This reminds me of some celeb saying how mean comments really cut deep if it's something you already see lacking in yourself, and it's like confirmation to yourself. But I'm also like 98% sure there's more productive ways of learning about your strenghts and weaknesses.
nudrive 4th-May-2019 08:15 am (UTC)


yeah the ending definitely lost steam and jaein giving ahn cpr wouldvr amusing if I wasn't too busy screaming sksnkssksksn WHY DID THEY LEAVE HIM IDGI

Seungmo... Don't even get me started. He can go away. I feel kinda bad for him but the way he handled everything after dnkedkd no

I still love the drama tho 😭
yuujinchous 4th-May-2019 09:29 am (UTC)
i'm just gonna say it, i still don't understand who murdered whom and who plotted which killing spree and who stole whose identity. yeah i'm dumb and honestly i wasn't even in it for the crime/drama aspect but i feel like i know as much as i did when i first started watching lmao :o apparently it's all solved now? but i'm still like... how

i'm still sad about jisoo :( her death was truly without any purpose. i understand that it was part of sungmo's redemption arc but that was very weak and considering he ended up in prison anyway and no one really forgave him/remained on the fence about him it really made no sense for her to die. like would have anything happened differently if she was still alive? i think not, except maybe her father agreeing to start a new investigation and then turning himself in. whatever. justice for jisoo noona!

jaein putting handcuffs on sungmo was very, very satisfying! i'm glad it was her who got to do that. although yes i agree with a comment above, that her speech about the punishment of time was a little weak. that said, that whole part in the last episode, with lee ahn confronting sungmo, jaein and police arriving to arrest him and everything, that was a true highlight of the show for me! really really really good acting by jinyoung and kim kwon!!! definitely one of my most favorite scenes.

i felt like jaein was a little shafted towards the end, like there was SO MUCH happening with sungmo and lee ahn, that sometimes i felt like they didn't really know what to do with her so they had her do ~stuff at the police station or whatever. but well everything still came together at the end! they got another date (sadly no amusement park) and moved in together kdfkdfj I KNEW IT... i'm honestly a little surprised that there was no marriage proposal lmfao

crime-wise, yeah, it seems resolved mostly but i was pleasantly surprised to see that they handled the matter of forgiveness really well! i was prepared to watch them all forgive sungmo but it's a really really difficult subject, especially to someone like lee ahn, and that kind of struggle between wanting to forgive someone but not being able to was portrayed pretty well. i liked that scene where lee ahn and sungmo's mom run into each other in the apartment and ahn goes like "don't expect me to forgive hyung, at least not right now" that was good!

all in all, a very entertaining drama. it's funny because i wish we could see more of jinyoung and yeeun NOW that they're more comfortable with each other (which was pretty obvious in their last few scenes together). i think you can tell they both became much better actors through this drama, like remember the beginning? :') i'm not worried about yeeun but i do hope that FOR ONCE jype doesn't drop the ball on jinyoung and gets him another acting gig soon!!
yuujinchous 4th-May-2019 09:30 am (UTC)
also!!!!!!!!!!! someone get jinyoung and kyungsoo in a drama or movie together PLEASE
yuujinchous 4th-May-2019 09:45 am (UTC)
also! my theory for why we didn't get a single (!!!) pic of jinyoung or yeeun or kim kwon or dasom at their wrap-up party, except for a few with the kids and staff very early into the night: they sent the kids and their parents home and got shitfaced together

because HOW ELSE is it possible that there is not a single pic out there... even the one that kim kwon posted afterwards was from their last day of filming it wasn't even from the party kfhgkfd and like i don't except jinyoung to update his insta BUT STILL
myungung 4th-May-2019 10:55 am (UTC)
I'm here wondering why aren't there pictures of Dasom and Jinyoung interacting. if JB can be close to Dasom, why is Jinyoung not seen with her?!
yuujinchous 4th-May-2019 11:52 am (UTC)
idk and you're totally right!!! like i was really really really anticipating a selfie of jinyoung and her because i love their character dynamics but :( not a single thing :(
ty 4th-May-2019 10:38 am (UTC)
I was ALL IN till 13-16

It was too slow/

But I loved it
minah_aplus 9th-May-2019 07:07 pm (UTC)
I'm about a week late but I hadn't had a chance to watch the last two episodes because of finals.

I'm pretty disappointed with how the show decided to end. More so because it had such a strong start and I fell in love with the characters. The show knew how to switch tones/genres fairly smoothly imho in the beginning. It could be both serious/dark and cute/funny.

I wish we'd gotten more Jaein/LeeAhn moments. The show became to invested in solving the 'mysterious case' )which btw became so convoluted I almost gave up on trying to piece it together. The show forgot that its strong points where its characters and their dynamics.

I think I only really liked Seungmo because of his relationship to LeeAhn (and Eunsoo). I didn't care about his mom. As tragic as their story was, I wish the show hadn't focused on that so much. Also! what was the point of killing off Eunsoo other than breaking my heart.

Edited at 2019-05-09 07:08 pm (UTC)
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