1:04 pm - 05/05/2019

BTS "Dionysus" Dance Practice


mallmouse 5th-May-2019 02:30 pm (UTC)
I still consider this to be their song with the most chances of getting airplay in the West. We'll see. I hope they start performing it on TV shows.
Out of curiosity, are they considered one of the best Kpop groups choreography-wise? Because their choreographies are truly incredible.
revedesnuages 5th-May-2019 03:33 pm (UTC)
I would say yes, they're probably one of the best Kpop groups choreography-wise, but other groups like SHINee, Infinite, Seventeen, Gfriend, and Dreamcatcher are also known for their choreographies.
mallmouse 5th-May-2019 05:26 pm (UTC)
I wonder if BH invested in this, i.e. hired the best choreographers because they considered it important, or if they were just lucky on this, i.e. if they couldn't afford to get the best in the dance scene, but the ones they did get turned out to be great
revedesnuages 5th-May-2019 07:27 pm (UTC)
I would say it's definitely something Bighit has invested in. They were supposed to debut as a hiphop group with no dancing but ended up debuting as an idol group with hard dancing instead, you can see Suga complain about it in an old Rookie King episode lol. Their in-house choreographer Son Sungduk used to choreograph most of their dances, but as they got more popular, more foreign choreographers like Keone Madrid, Quickstyle, Rie Hata, etc. got involved and these are choreographers are already known in Kpop because they've choreographed other popular dances.
mallmouse 5th-May-2019 07:33 pm (UTC)
ahaha! The video's so funny! I know it's probably scripted, but I guess there must be some truth in BH allowing them to diss the company too, because I'd once read the lyrics of a song in which they were literally clowning them lol
u_know 5th-May-2019 06:07 pm (UTC)
I remember when SHINee debuted and I was FLOORED by how in sync they were + their choreos.
revedesnuages 5th-May-2019 09:50 pm (UTC)
Definitely one of the most impressive debuts!
garnetstar38 5th-May-2019 04:51 pm (UTC)
To me when talking about BTS it’s not about being the best. Like I could say there are technically better singers or dancers. What BTS have as as a team is a mixture of synergy, personality, charisma & passion. It’s an undefinable it factor they are able to project. You can have all of the aforementioned qualities but if you’re unable to mix it together & project it on stage all at the same time then it doesn’t matter if you are the best technically. Again just my take on it.
lil_poisonfrog 5th-May-2019 05:24 pm (UTC)
mallmouse 5th-May-2019 05:24 pm (UTC)
very interesting take, actually. So would you see BTS have this 'it', i.e. this 'good mix' which is also received by the audience, whereas the other kpop groups don't, at least to this degree? Not trying to start a fandom war, I'm just genuinely curious about the factors that made them so ridiculously successful!
audiograms 5th-May-2019 07:53 pm (UTC)
Honestly I think a lot of it was sheer luck that they happen to be in a place where they could ascend. Their sound is unique for kpop and western pop but with a lot of familiar accents. And the sheer amount of content they produce.
garnetstar38 5th-May-2019 08:45 pm (UTC)
“Sheer luck” sure anyone’s success in life takes a certain amount of luck and timing. In the age of recognizing “white privilege” I’ve come to recognize your circumstances in life play a much larger role in success then people account for. But if you look at bts and their circumstances everything at some point worked against them. Not only in Korea but in America were “luck” is even more rare when it comes to POC achieving success. So sure let’s just call it sheer luck.

Edited at 2019-05-05 08:47 pm (UTC)
skybluecotton 6th-May-2019 04:00 am (UTC)
the problem with pinpointing BTS' 'it' factor is it's much easier to experience it than explain it.
i think that's why sooo many journalists have a problem attempting to nail down the "BTS phenomenon" (i'd know..i've been tracking them much earlier than i've been a fan of BTS )

I would say one thing though that it's rly insulting to say that it was luck.
I used to believe ppl saying that this was "just a right time at the right place thing" before I actually listened to BTS.
but now that I have, it sounds so ugly ..?? like what a way to undermine someone's hard work and effort just 'cause your fav is not doing as well as them...
Like, ive been listening to Kpop since Rain's 'Escaping the Sun' yet i've never stanned any one group 'cause they've never given me a good enough reason to.
Bangtan don't have a viral video or a song that got them on the radar like Psy, nor do they have a bunch of media exposures on variety shows like getting to collab with a Nation's MC on the most popular show.
Everything that they've done, every opportunity that they've gotten -- all the other groups have had them (if not more).
So, if Bangtan's doing better it's because they're better.

gigabytexx 8th-May-2019 07:39 pm (UTC)
I think it happened that all of the member's chemistry are also matched with each other, I kind of linked it with like, for example cooking, if you're cooking with someone you dont like then eventhough you're a great cook the dish will not be great. If you keep quarreling with each other during cooking process then usually the food is a mess lol (i've watched a lot of cooking shows)

Also the intensity of their content. Tbh I feel like they never really rest this 6 years, they're always consistent in putting out stuff. I remember when I stan Exo, the gap between their debut single MAMA to Wolf as their first comeback was more than a year and I think it was too long because in between they split the groups to promote in Korea & China, then some members did dramas etc. While Bts is really focusing on music & group activities, also the varieties they're doing... it keeps me going. I would usually get bored with a group in less than a year bec they're often doing a comeback & promoting for 2-3 months and then idk what they're doing, while with Bts somehow I always know what they're doing lmao. Even when they're on tour, thanks to fansites I always get exciting updates.

Anyway there's a nasty withchunt towards fansites going on in the US and many are reportedly become REST, and I'm mad because now there will be less updates about dem bois T_T
pwrpuffgrl 5th-May-2019 05:56 pm (UTC)
ITA and I think that's what pisses most people off: that having "more talented groups with better music" they just can't achieve what BTS has done because of what you mention, yet at least.
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