1:04 pm - 05/05/2019

BTS "Dionysus" Dance Practice


mallmouse 5th-May-2019 05:24 pm (UTC)
very interesting take, actually. So would you see BTS have this 'it', i.e. this 'good mix' which is also received by the audience, whereas the other kpop groups don't, at least to this degree? Not trying to start a fandom war, I'm just genuinely curious about the factors that made them so ridiculously successful!
audiograms 5th-May-2019 07:53 pm (UTC)
Honestly I think a lot of it was sheer luck that they happen to be in a place where they could ascend. Their sound is unique for kpop and western pop but with a lot of familiar accents. And the sheer amount of content they produce.
garnetstar38 5th-May-2019 08:45 pm (UTC)
“Sheer luck” sure anyone’s success in life takes a certain amount of luck and timing. In the age of recognizing “white privilege” I’ve come to recognize your circumstances in life play a much larger role in success then people account for. But if you look at bts and their circumstances everything at some point worked against them. Not only in Korea but in America were “luck” is even more rare when it comes to POC achieving success. So sure let’s just call it sheer luck.

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nekokonneko 5th-May-2019 08:58 pm (UTC)
Like Jungkook said in burn the stage, they've been lucky but they also worked very hard for that luck. There's certainly an element of it for them to overcome the mountain of challenges they faced, both domestically and internationally, but to handwave it as only (or even mostly) luck does them a huge disservice. But it goes down easier for some people when faced with the question of 'why hasn't this happened for my fave?'
garnetstar38 5th-May-2019 09:22 pm (UTC)
Agreed. What’s the old saying? “luck is when preparation meets opportunity”
audiograms 11th-May-2019 10:18 pm (UTC)
"A lot of it" =/= all of it
lil_poisonfrog 5th-May-2019 09:54 pm (UTC)
Luck is a factor in any celeb's success, but acting like they didn't do anything different or better than another groups and were randomly chosen for success makes no sense. Even if you're meh on their product there's no denying they were better at marketing themselves to and engaging with international fans way better than any Kpop group before them.

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audiograms 11th-May-2019 10:16 pm (UTC)
Thats why I mentioned the sheer amount of content they produce. I am a huge BTS fan but I feel that luck is a big factor when it comes to who gets big and who doesnt.
skybluecotton 6th-May-2019 04:00 am (UTC)
the problem with pinpointing BTS' 'it' factor is it's much easier to experience it than explain it.
i think that's why sooo many journalists have a problem attempting to nail down the "BTS phenomenon" (i'd know..i've been tracking them much earlier than i've been a fan of BTS )

I would say one thing though that it's rly insulting to say that it was luck.
I used to believe ppl saying that this was "just a right time at the right place thing" before I actually listened to BTS.
but now that I have, it sounds so ugly ..?? like what a way to undermine someone's hard work and effort just 'cause your fav is not doing as well as them...
Like, ive been listening to Kpop since Rain's 'Escaping the Sun' yet i've never stanned any one group 'cause they've never given me a good enough reason to.
Bangtan don't have a viral video or a song that got them on the radar like Psy, nor do they have a bunch of media exposures on variety shows like getting to collab with a Nation's MC on the most popular show.
Everything that they've done, every opportunity that they've gotten -- all the other groups have had them (if not more).
So, if Bangtan's doing better it's because they're better.

gigabytexx 8th-May-2019 07:39 pm (UTC)
I think it happened that all of the member's chemistry are also matched with each other, I kind of linked it with like, for example cooking, if you're cooking with someone you dont like then eventhough you're a great cook the dish will not be great. If you keep quarreling with each other during cooking process then usually the food is a mess lol (i've watched a lot of cooking shows)

Also the intensity of their content. Tbh I feel like they never really rest this 6 years, they're always consistent in putting out stuff. I remember when I stan Exo, the gap between their debut single MAMA to Wolf as their first comeback was more than a year and I think it was too long because in between they split the groups to promote in Korea & China, then some members did dramas etc. While Bts is really focusing on music & group activities, also the varieties they're doing... it keeps me going. I would usually get bored with a group in less than a year bec they're often doing a comeback & promoting for 2-3 months and then idk what they're doing, while with Bts somehow I always know what they're doing lmao. Even when they're on tour, thanks to fansites I always get exciting updates.

Anyway there's a nasty withchunt towards fansites going on in the US and many are reportedly become REST, and I'm mad because now there will be less updates about dem bois T_T
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