5:37 pm - 05/06/2019

iKON, Jackson & DPR Live join 88rising festival lineup

August 17th, LA State Historic Park. GA tix for $100, VIP bundles for $250.

source: 88rising
scionofawhisper 7th-May-2019 04:29 am (UTC)
Jackson..? Ikon..? Dumbfounded..? Damn, like you'd have to pay *me* to see this, lmfao.
radowan 7th-May-2019 03:07 pm (UTC)
omg mte exactly

and knowing what a slippery, opportunist mofo dumbfounded is, I expect to see Jackson on his podcast. He's already had Jessi and Jay Park.
blck_ink 7th-May-2019 10:19 pm (UTC)
oh tell me more about dumbfounded...
radowan 8th-May-2019 11:07 am (UTC)
Nothing dramatic tbh! If he's been problematic, I don't know the details so I won't even pick up the topic. He grew up in US and likes to cultivate the image of a tough guy (but that's kind of a common theme in the hep hap circles, I hear).

He's got a podcast (fun with dumb iirc) where he brings guests on etc. His stories are really colourful but as always with stuff like that, who knows how much of it is amped up. He's also been on JK News (he's friends with David So afaik). It's been a long-runnin dig at him (in a good natured way I think) that he's very deliberate in the way he networks - not a bad thing necessarily, but it definitely results in him making moves on people for reasons that are purely self-serving.

I don't think that in itself makes him a shit guy. Is he slippery? Yeah. Opportunist? Definitely. Mofo? I think he'd agree tbh?

So basically, I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson turned up on his podcast sometime after that festival.

Also, his music is shit imo.
blck_ink 8th-May-2019 04:58 pm (UTC)
Interesting! I remember reading about him and how open and inclusive he is ( e.g. having drag queens in his mv and "respecting the culture"). however, I never listened to his songs cause k-rappers easily annoy/disappoint/make cringe. But I see I've dodged a bullet lol.
saemcrh 8th-May-2019 09:45 am (UTC)
He dated Jessi, and is friends with both she and Jay. I don’t personally like him much, but I don’t know how that makes him any more of an opportunist than any other industry person.
radowan 8th-May-2019 10:57 am (UTC)
I know he dated Jessi, and is friends with Jay. He's also friends with a whole bigger group of people in the music industry, which shouldn't be a surprise?

And I'm not sure which point you're trying to argue against, since apparently we both agree that he is opportunistic? As for your "More so than any other industry person" bit that you said? No, and that's not what I said - that's what you said, so that's on you sis.
saemcrh 8th-May-2019 11:10 am (UTC)
You sound so defensive... jesus.

Your post made it sound as if it's a quality especially exemplified in Dumbfoundead (with you also calling him slippery) which is weird to me. AFAIK his podcast is primarily interviewing different people, a lot of them people he's friends with but also others as well, it'd be the objective of anyone to get interviewees who'll bring interest to your show/product.

Bringing up his actual friend Jessi (also an ex) and Jay, in the same line you're saying it'd be opportunistic to get Jackson on there, is just odd.
radowan 8th-May-2019 11:14 am (UTC)
I mean... if you wanna talk about being defensive, you literally took me saying "he's opportunistic" and turned it into "he's more opportunistic than any other person in the industry" just so you could have a point to argue against.

I'm still confused by what's your issue. Me calling him slippery? Imo he is, you disagree. Anything else?

Edited at 2019-05-08 11:17 am (UTC)
saemcrh 8th-May-2019 11:37 am (UTC)
Feeling the need to point out that a specific someone in the industry is opportunistic when everyone is to a certain degree certainly paints the picture that the person is especially opportunistic, more so than others. It's a typical and common thing so pointing it out is weird to me.

I just find it odd that you'd make the point of singling him out for opportunistic behaviour, and then your reasoning behind it being that he had two people who've been his friends for years on his podcast... it sounds ridiculous. I read your response to the other person, and from what I've seen of his he doesn't try to cultivate a tough guy image at all, pretentious about some things maybe but not tough.

It just seems like you have an issue with him and currently reaching to justify it because your reasoning is really weak. Your whole post and the following ones just have a very odd tone because there's nothing really there. Anyway, I don't really care about him like that to carry on arguing beyond this.
radowan 8th-May-2019 11:53 am (UTC)
NVM weak reasoning, I don't think I need to justify not liking him at all.

You finding my comments to have an odd tone is also subjective, so... congrats? You paraphrased and amplified my initial comment, then picked up another point just to carry on.

I agree on not carrying on regarding this, because I still think there's nothing to argue about.
miyozari 7th-May-2019 05:53 am (UTC)
88rising is just a bunch of wannabe hep hap dudes hyping up each other. I hope Mark's sweaty LA friends won't use this opportunity to get close to Jackson and other celebrities to feed their ugly egos.

Edited at 2019-05-07 07:54 am (UTC)
lizanka23 7th-May-2019 08:03 am (UTC)
ew keep ikon's homophobic asses away
22_taken 7th-May-2019 01:24 pm (UTC)
didn't these 88 rising guys drag kpop and kpop boygroups some time ago? looks like they're just using ikon and jackson to earn some quick cash
wafflesnmilk 7th-May-2019 01:44 pm (UTC)
I only heard most of these names in passing but even I can tell that’s way too much yolo-sweg in one place at any given time
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