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2019 BTS FESTA Day 10: BANGTAN Attic + Day 9: BTS Profile 2019 Version

katheli 13th-Jun-2019 04:36 am (UTC)
I'm glad you said it lol cause I wasn't sure if it was just my bias goggles telling me that. It's their usual dynamic tbh, they ignore him a lot, talk over him etc. Not maliciously, but just cause they don't take him seriously? he's not that smart, but he's really trying to be earnest sometimes and I feel bad on those occasions. I think it's partly why he doesn't bother speaking much in group setting anymore. Like JK is doted on as the youngest, and he really gets away with everything while Tae is made fun of for things that are pretty comparable. But JK is the youngest by quite a bit so it makes sense that everyone feels really protective of him. Sometimes Yoongi steps in to defend Tae too, though, but he can also be the most savage ("loser gets Taehyung" lol).
rainstormraider 13th-Jun-2019 05:04 am (UTC)
I think in terms of intelligence Jin, RM and Suga are evenly matched and then it’s Jimin and then V, then J-Hope and then finally our resident dumb jock Jungkook. Lol.
So he’s at least smarter than 2/7.
I also think that what he’s trying to say is deeply intelligent but doesn’t come across as that when he speaks and sometimes BTS shows the patience necessary to hear him out and sometimes they don’t (mostly they don’t). I think age dynamics play into this too and he probably gets unfavourably compared to Jimin and Jungkook all the time too.
V ain’t my bias but it’s clear that in this and the VLive they hosted for their last album drop, their dynamics aren’t the same they used to be. Which is to be expected but still a bit jarring to see.
katheli 13th-Jun-2019 05:28 am (UTC)
the comeback vlive was so painful to watch I've pretty much blocked it from my memory, idk why some members are sometimes so awkward with each other, sometimes they seem fine, sometimes I'm like...??

Edited at 2019-06-13 05:15 pm (UTC)
rainstormraider 13th-Jun-2019 05:47 pm (UTC)
They’re lovely together in the Run Behind that just came out so it could be an off day. But it’s a recurring pattern I noticed with V.

And comments in here acting as if fans aren’t allowed to speculate when there are literal weeks of BTS content that doesn’t end up being cut is such a false sense of superiority. I love watching group dynamics play out and BTS is a treasure trove when it comes to the positive effects of group socialisation.


lil_poisonfrog 14th-Jun-2019 12:24 am (UTC)
Just read down the post and mte on ppl acting superior. If they don't want fans speculating on their personalities, maybe they shouldn't have in depth discussions about their interpersonal dynamics on camera? LOL. That's literally the appeal of following idols.

That said, idt ppl should state speculations as facts, but no one here is doing that. It's pretty obvious it's all theories. Idk why ppl are assuming we're gonna run to Twitter or Reddit to spread false rumors or something. The whole reason ppl come to this dead comm is bc we DON'T support that kind of behavior.
rainstormraider 14th-Jun-2019 01:43 am (UTC)
Dammit. I was just about to set up an anti account on Twitter! Drats! Foiled again!
Between this and someone calling me a hater for pointing out Jimin has bad technique, this fandom is reaching critical mass for me.
lil_poisonfrog 14th-Jun-2019 02:05 am (UTC)
I stg it seems like every BTS post some rando accts I've never seen before pop up and act like they have the right to tell us what we're allowed to discuss. It's so fucking stupid
lil_poisonfrog 14th-Jun-2019 12:09 am (UTC)
Probably has to do with the members' moods that day and what's going on privately. It's very possible they've had arguments right before filming stuff (makes total sense, given how often they record) or they're in the midst of an ongoing disagreement at times.

Edited at 2019-06-14 12:25 am (UTC)
mallmouse 13th-Jun-2019 06:00 am (UTC)
Meh, i highly doubt Jin is that clever. I know he got into that universify at a young age and all, but lbr it must have been because of his looks. It s probably what RM must have had in mind when he said he was so different from him, who got so much shit for his looks and had to rely so much on his IQ and EQ. Jin even said the only compliment he ever got was about his looks. And of course both RM and Jin come from very privilegded backgrounds, whereas Suga always seemed very woke, and I m sure would have been very articulate in English too if he had been given RMs opportunities to learn English (whereas Jin even spent time abroad to lean English and look at how that turned out)

V, JK and JH probably are on the same level, providing solid proof about multiple intelligences ('cause can I learn dances like that? Not even if my life depended on it). However, it seems like only JK is consciously aware of this, hence why he was so impressed by RM, even saying he was "so handsome in my eyes" awwww.

Then again it s good that V doesnt seem to get some things sometimes, otherwise he d be really pissed off about the way the members ignore and obviously underestimate him (unless it s something objective like how quickly he learns a choreography. Even better than JH apparently). Wonder how come RM hasnt stepped in yet? Or their counselor? V is bound to realize it and get seriously pissed off at some point.
rainstormraider 13th-Jun-2019 06:10 am (UTC)
I think you should watch more episodes of Run BTS, Jin for sure comes across as smarter than RM in quite a lot of those. For me intelligence is more than just book smarts. So my evaluation takes both IQ and EQ into account.
Also I think both Suga and Jin are fluent enough in English but prefer to express themselves in Korean.

The rest I kinda agree with.


Edited at 2019-06-13 06:22 am (UTC)
mallmouse 13th-Jun-2019 06:57 am (UTC)
Well, i kinda used to like Jin because he must be working his ass off trying to learn the choreography and I can so relate to that, but even his body language yesterday didnt really show high E.Q. Quite the opposite actually. What s interesting about BTS is that there must be so much going on in the background, e.g. Jin and RM coming from mich wealthier families than the rest (of us), Jin and Suga being the oldest but the leader being RM etc...
oncloud999 13th-Jun-2019 07:35 am (UTC)
it's interesting the whole thing about them being well off, apparnetly jin's family is super rich and RM's is def pretty well off too but i wonder that the rest (other than suga) are not too bad off too. i mean, jk went to america for 6 months to learn dancing. was that sponsored by the company? seems a bit odd he's the only one who goes... so did his parents pay for it? jimin went to an arts school. i mean, idk, usually people with relatively ok backgrounds go to arts schools right? in asia especially? idk about the other two tho...
mallmouse 13th-Jun-2019 07:47 am (UTC)
iirc, only Jin and RM were rich (VERY rich). Which makes it very interesting, considering how much they gave up to go sleep in the same room with 5 strangers. Jin must have been driven by his need to prove to his family that he s worth something. RM just couldnt control his need to write music.

YG cant have been rich, hence his interesting dynamic with RM when they were trainees, fighting all the time. He wouldnt have been in such a horrible financial situation before he became a trainee otherwise (he s talked about having money for either food or the bus, not both). I remember reading somewhere that Jimin's teacher used to pay for his dance lessons? V grew up with his grandparents on a farm so idk about that. As for JK i have NO idea.
lil_poisonfrog 14th-Jun-2019 12:16 am (UTC)
None of them come from poor backgrounds, I think we can be fairly confident of that at this point. Their families all seem middle class to rich.

I'm not sure how schools in Korea work but Jimin's school may not have been a private school. I think in some countries, after middle school you test to get into high schools based on grades and your desired area of study?

Edited at 2019-06-14 12:27 am (UTC)
jyusou 13th-Jun-2019 07:45 am (UTC)
Your takes in these BTS posts are so horrible, my god...
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