11:02 am - 07/14/2019

Love Yourself: Speak Yourself Tour coming to Saudi Arabia

source: BigHitEnt

well, that was a surprise
sheisagentleman 14th-Jul-2019 07:03 pm (UTC)
i'm a big fan, have been for almost five years, and it's really disappointing the way they've been monetizing and using social problems as a marketing tool. they barely got out of the semi-scandal last year (jimin's shitty shirt + their old holocaust memorial photos + that bizarre nazi symbol hat) and one would think they learnt how to, at the very least, hide that shit.

but each day it just looks like they genuinely don't care. and i use they as an umbrella term, tbh i'd like to believe that this is a BigHit controlled issue but i also don't wanna pull an "oppa didn't mean it!".

lil_poisonfrog 14th-Jul-2019 07:30 pm (UTC)
Ia, it's nothing but a marketing tool. It's impossible to perform any kind of meaningful activism when you're part of a late stage capitalist machine like the Kpop industry. That's not to say individual idols shouldn't speak on issues they genuinely care about, but BTS has gone far beyond that by making it a part of the group's brand as a whole, in a way no other Kpop group has. Armys can deny it all they want, but the UN shit was very much media played and the guys' occasional lyrics on social issues are used by their fans to argue why BTS "isn't like other Kpop groups/boy bands" or why they don't consider BTS to be idols at all. It's been a big part of their appeal to western fans from the jump. I even saw a heavily liked thread on Twitter the other day about why BTS are LGBT kings or some nonsense, even tho they do the bare minimum in regard, even compared to other idols.

I won't even lie, I thought that stuff was cool in my early days of being a fan. But with how they've p much totally abandoned their old image since making it big in America and handled more recent controversies so poorly...idk I can't take it seriously anymore lol

Edited at 2019-07-14 07:43 pm (UTC)
sheisagentleman 14th-Jul-2019 08:05 pm (UTC)
you’re way more articulate than i am lmao you said exactly what i was thinking!

it’s super unfortunate bc i love their messages and their music really speaks to me. but i’m not delusional and i’m not gonna pretend they’re lgbt+ kings bc yoongi said “gay ppl are ok” once lmao

they keep marketing social issues/activism more and more and try to appropriate that as their brand while speaking less and less about said issues. it’s ridiculous!

the worst part is that other armys gass them up and say they’re outspoken about many thing when they literally barely even speak about these issues anymore. not that they talked about it much, before.
lil_poisonfrog 14th-Jul-2019 08:21 pm (UTC)
they keep marketing social issues/activism more and more and try to appropriate that as their brand while speaking less and less about said issues. it’s ridiculous!

Yup you hit the nail on the head

Edited at 2019-07-14 08:21 pm (UTC)
ostsiberia 14th-Jul-2019 08:21 pm (UTC)
When I hear the boys like RM say stuff about how he wouldnt like his gf having male friends, I remember they're not *that* woke.

Edited at 2019-07-14 08:35 pm (UTC)
lil_poisonfrog 14th-Jul-2019 09:05 pm (UTC)
Holy crap, when was that?? This is the first I'm hearing of it

I'm not surprised though, I've heard many Korean men are very controlling in relationships and constantly suspicious of their gfs
ostsiberia 14th-Jul-2019 10:37 pm (UTC)

Around 2:25ish. Now I misunderstood he doesn't say it like that, it was the impression I got, along with some lyrics... "Having male friends isnt a problem...but from my pov and circumstances, she did unacceptable stuff and we argued. It would affect my pure feelings for her and we split over differing values." I don't know what unacceptable stuff means here because some bfs think meeting platonic male friends alone is unacceptable, but judging by how he answered first and foremost "she had many male friends" he places the onus of the break up over arguing with her about her friends.

Edited at 2019-07-14 10:37 pm (UTC)
lil_poisonfrog 15th-Jul-2019 06:16 am (UTC)
This is from like 2014 or 2015 right? Still, the idea that many male friends is what came to mind first...if she cheated, that's one thing, but otherwise, yeeeeeah.... lol
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